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New Levels of Low
#11
RE: New Levels of Low
I don't particularly feel like reading through an entire book of the Bible searching for some obscure passage that only means what you want it to mean if you read it in a very special way so that it means what it doesn't actually say. I've discussed the sermon of the mount enough to know that's a waste of my time.

If it's in there, point it out to me directly. If you won't do that, then buzz off.
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#12
RE: New Levels of Low
School isn't the place to teach that which is not fact. If that teacher would have said, You all have equal rights because the Goddess Zithra gave it to you

----------YOU TWO-------------------- would be shitting a fucking brick.

Just sayin.

The day bullshit is allowed to be spewed in schools is the day your right to not have to deal with others' religious beliefs : Dies.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#13
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 6, 2013 at 3:02 am)Ryantology Wrote: I don't particularly feel like reading through an entire book of the Bible searching for some obscure passage that only means what you want it to mean if you read it in a very special way so that it means what it doesn't actually say. I've discussed the sermon of the mount enough to know that's a waste of my time.

If it's in there, point it out to me directly. If you won't do that, then buzz off.

Are you one of those atheists who boasts..."I know the bible even better than you Christians"

If I play Google bus boy for you and go look up all the bible texts you claim don't exist, what's in it for me?

Can I get a Rep point?

How about if I get 10 verses which establish my theological/biblical claim?

How about if I get 20 verses, 10 in the OT and 10 in the NT?

How about we have a formal debate on the proposition?

...that the bible supports the doctrine that there is neither Jew nor gentile, neither free man nor slave, and that God wants everyone to be saved - all nations - because He loves us.
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#14
RE: New Levels of Low
Given what I know of the South this doesn't strike me as a new low. It seems quite typical of them and you'd probably have to go way, way up in order to get anywhere if you wanted this kind of behavior to stop.
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#15
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 5, 2013 at 11:00 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: A new level of low, even for the south.

It didn't take long for a couple of the resident theists to challenge that record, I see.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#16
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 6, 2013 at 5:59 am)Lion IRC Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 3:02 am)Ryantology Wrote: I don't particularly feel like reading through an entire book of the Bible searching for some obscure passage that only means what you want it to mean if you read it in a very special way so that it means what it doesn't actually say. I've discussed the sermon of the mount enough to know that's a waste of my time.

If it's in there, point it out to me directly. If you won't do that, then buzz off.

Are you one of those atheists who boasts..."I know the bible even better than you Christians"

If I play Google bus boy for you and go look up all the bible texts you claim don't exist, what's in it for me?

Can I get a Rep point?

How about if I get 10 verses which establish my theological/biblical claim?

How about if I get 20 verses, 10 in the OT and 10 in the NT?

How about we have a formal debate on the proposition?

...that the bible supports the doctrine that there is neither Jew nor gentile, neither free man nor slave, and that God wants everyone to be saved - all nations - because He loves us.

What if I give you 10 quotes from the Qur'an on the same thing, would you then become a Muslim or admit the Qur'an as holy scripture?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#17
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 5, 2013 at 11:00 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: Over all the years I have been in my extremely southern right wing town schools, I have always heard ¨hints¨ to the existence of God.
However, a school teacher has gone to a new low.
Today while my class was discussing ¨To Kill a Mockingbird¨, my teacher intervened.
She asked us ¨Do you believe that all men are created equal?¨ and told us to state whether we agreed or disagreed. After all of us told her our opinion, she stated this: ¨God created all of you equal, no matter what some evil evolutionist says¨.
Sigh.
A new level of low, even for the south.

Why? is this the rule nowaday's?
Quis ut Deus?
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#18
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 6, 2013 at 1:06 am)Lion IRC Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 1:02 am)Godschild Wrote: Good for her, at least for once in your life you heard the truth.

GC

LOL

I agree.
It is the truth.
It is a self-evident truth that we share certain inalienable rights with which we are endowed by our Creator.
Cool Shades

It's a fact of law that American public school teachers are not allowed to instruct other people's children on what religious doctrines to believe or not to believe. But Christianists don't believe in following the law, and applaud each other for breaking it, as long as it's 'for the cause'.
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#19
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 6, 2013 at 6:20 am)ToriJ Wrote: Given what I know of the South this doesn't strike me as a new low. It seems quite typical of them and you'd probably have to go way, way up in order to get anywhere if you wanted this kind of behavior to stop.

Explain what you know about the southern U.S.

GC

(November 6, 2013 at 1:18 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 1:06 am)Lion IRC Wrote: LOL

I agree.
It is the truth.
It is a self-evident truth that we share certain inalienable rights with which we are endowed by our Creator.
Cool Shades

It's a fact of law that American public school teachers are not allowed to instruct other people's children on what religious doctrines to believe or not to believe. But Christianists don't believe in following the law, and applaud each other for breaking it, as long as it's 'for the cause'.

Christ tells us to obey the law of the land, because no one can condemn us for do such. He added a however, if the law of the land goes against my laws you are to obey mine, doing so in peace and love.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#20
RE: New Levels of Low
(November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: Explain what you know about the southern U.S.

GC

That they're racist, sexist, intolerant, bigoted, fought a war to keep black people in slavery and if you visit them long enough you'll come back with your own southern accent.
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