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RE: New Levels of Low
November 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm
(November 6, 2013 at 11:11 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: (November 6, 2013 at 4:43 pm)WesOlsen Wrote: ...Here, how about this:
"I say that people should have equal rights from birth to death"
That was me, saying that, just now. It is now a written reference in history, created by a human, just like everything in the bible. It automatically carries at least as much weight as the bible in any discussion on ethics. That's how reason works lads, the bible doesn't trump a thing.
^^^^^
That's how reason works?
Really? You just 'say stuff' and it automatically carries weight? ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif)
*makes mental note of the 2 names that gave your post kudos*
Sigh, I'm apparently not allowed to outright say: ¨you're a fucking moron¨, but I can say this: what you just said is one of the most moronic things I've ever heard. It is the entirety of the illogical, evasive and simply stupid mentality that most christians seem to argue with.
Just give up, your arguments are just insignificant and illogical. You have spent your entire time on this thread serving up your own brands of logic witho real evidence for any of your claims.
To sum up what I just said into a simple phrase, shut up.
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 6, 2013 at 11:46 pm
You're taking an awful long time on that verse.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:07 am
(November 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: As a southerner myself this is nothing new to me. Sadly most schools outside of metropolitan areas in the south are biased and tend to cover up these cases of religious backing by an authority figure. It certainly was in my schools.
My opinion is that just like there is the zero tolerance policy for students regarding violence and drugs, there should be a zero tolerance policy for teachers against this sort of talk. It's against the law and immoral.
I've lived in TN for 17 years by the by, before Godsnitwit decides to ask me what I know of the south.
You've a long ways to go child.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:13 am
Newsflash: Living Embodiment of Negative Southern Stereotypes Says Stereotypes Untrue
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:16 am
(November 7, 2013 at 1:07 am)Godschild Wrote: (November 6, 2013 at 9:58 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: As a southerner myself this is nothing new to me. Sadly most schools outside of metropolitan areas in the south are biased and tend to cover up these cases of religious backing by an authority figure. It certainly was in my schools.
My opinion is that just like there is the zero tolerance policy for students regarding violence and drugs, there should be a zero tolerance policy for teachers against this sort of talk. It's against the law and immoral.
I've lived in TN for 17 years by the by, before Godsnitwit decides to ask me what I know of the south.
You've a long ways to go child.
GC Says the man who believes in a fairy tale.
Reality check son, you don't know a damn thing about me so why don't you shut the fuck up?
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:22 am
(November 7, 2013 at 1:16 am)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Reality check son, you don't know a damn thing about me so why don't you shut the fuck up?
That would require an admission that he doesn't know everything, and that's just a bridge too far.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:25 am
(November 6, 2013 at 11:46 pm)Ryantology Wrote: You're taking an awful long time on that verse.
I told you, I want a kudos or a rep point or a medal or something in return for doing your research grunt work.
I find it necessary, when skeptics ask me for biblical citations, to clarify what difference it will make to their position if I do give them what they are asking.
I dont want to waste my your time making you read a ton of verses if, at the end, you're just gonna dummy spit and say;
they dont count... or they dont mean what you think... or who cares what the bible says... etc etc sour grapes.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:29 am
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2013 at 1:37 am by Ryantology.)
I'm not rewarding you for establishing the truth of your own assertion. What do I have to gain from enticing you into preserving your own credibility?
Furthermore, how in the hell can I know what difference your evidence will make without knowing what the evidence is? If you pull out a Bible verse that says "And then the Lord said 'The Lord your God has endowed you with certain inalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'" or some close variation on that theme, I have no recourse but to concede the point that those rights are inspired by Christian scripture (though, of course, I can point out how the Bible is, to put it generously, extremely inconsistent about how inalienable those rights are). If those specific rights are not enumerated in the Bible, I have every right to dispute the allegation that those inalienable rights are inspired by Christian scripture.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 1:32 am
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2013 at 1:33 am by Lion IRC.)
(November 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: Sigh, I'm apparently not allowed to outright say: ¨you're a fucking moron¨
Since when? Who made that rule?
(November 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: Just give up...
your arguments are just insignificant and illogical...
...shut up.
See, thats called special pleading. You havent explained WHY. Asking me to do something... just because you said so, with no other reason, isnt very persuasive. Sorry.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 7, 2013 at 2:41 am
(November 7, 2013 at 1:29 am)Ryantology Wrote: I'm not rewarding you for establishing the truth of your own assertion. What do I have to gain from enticing you into preserving your own credibility?
Furthermore, how in the hell can I know what difference your evidence will make without knowing what the evidence is? If you pull out a Bible verse that says "And then the Lord said 'The Lord your God has endowed you with certain inalienable rights, among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'" or some close variation on that theme, I have no recourse but to concede the point that those rights are inspired by Christian scripture (though, of course, I can point out how the Bible is, to put it generously, extremely inconsistent about how inalienable those rights are). If those specific rights are not enumerated in the Bible, I have every right to dispute the allegation that those inalienable rights are inspired by Christian scripture.
I'm betting that bible verse isnt real and the only way to make it say that is to take some vaguely worded verse and twist it like a snake until it says what you wanted to say, context be damned.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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