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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
November 15, 2013 at 7:49 am
(November 15, 2013 at 7:02 am)Esquilax Wrote: (November 15, 2013 at 7:00 am)pocaracas Wrote: aye... but women, around there, aren't that much higher.
"mental and spiritual".... "systematically taught that their bodies are evil, that sex is sinful, and that they shouldn't enjoy it"
Wives, obey your husband, blah ,blah, blah.. ring a bell?
I don't really know what we're arguing about anymore. ![Tongue Tongue](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
I mean, we both agree!
Oh.... we were arguing?
I thought we were exchanging ideas!
We agree that men created the problem by imposing some stupid notions into women's minds, instead of letting those women handle the men's desires.
One more example of trying to shun women under the excuse of infidelity... leading to the males becoming pedophiles... awesome -.-'
Solution? free women's minds.... show them some porn!
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
November 15, 2013 at 8:20 am
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Esquilax is all about me having a free mind
That said I really truly thought I was going to hell when I sucked my first cock. So I did it again ![Tongue Tongue](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif) When I did come back to that religion I dealt with my abstinence in excess, and took on the whole 'masturbation is sin' thing. I know a few Catholic girls who totally gave up their V card but its super hush hush. Around friends and family they had no problems acting like they were saint Maria's and even have the gall to correct others on their Catholicism.
So, what is my point here? Orthodox Religion creates either horribly excessive prudes, or closet fornicators with no conscience and a whole lot of smug sense of self importance. Or it makes atheists, for that matter.
Doesn't matter though really, we all know --religious or not-- that raping children is THE most evil thing you can do in this life. I'm with Kichi. Start cuttin off body parts.
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 5:23 am
I'd like to think that there is a particularly nasty corner of he'll for people like this. Chopping off body parts is far to easy.
A few years ago there was a killing in prison which seemed fairly appropriate to me.
" A 23 Year old prisoner has lost his life to prison justice. Like so many others, he found out that a different form of justice gets carried out by prison inmates in the cases involving women and children.According to other prisoners, he bragged about his crimes when asked what he was in for. He detailed the raping of a 13-year-old girl who earned him his conviction, but he had been caught twice previously for sexual offenses including minors.Two inmates entered his cell on Saturday morning with prison shanks and confronted him. They proceeded to cut open his stomach and pull his internal organs out, leaving some of them lying on the cell floor to confirm his imminent death. After disemboweling him, the 23 and 32-year-old men who have not been named as of yet, cleaned up and went to breakfast! The un-named inmates turned themselves in to prison guards for the crime that had not yet been discovered after completing their meal.The man had been busted starting at a very young age for sexual crimes, first when he was 13 for assaulting a 7-year-old, and again for the stalking and threat of rape to a 15-year-old that he went to school with. He openly bragged to the other inmates however, that he had committed far more crimes than he had been convicted of.Officials have described the murder scene as extreme, stating that they have never seen anything so horrific, many even say that it appeared ritualistic in nature. They contend though that the murder was not carried out to be only a killing, but a message to the other prisoners to keep their convictions to themselves, as it was ultimately his bragging that led to his death."
What a pity.
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 6:01 am
Where the fuck was this boy's mother? That what I always fail to understand when I read stories of little boys getting sexually abused by "holy men" or whatever. Where are the mothers? Who thinks it's OK to leave their little boy alone with a dirty old man? Honestly... They should be held accountable for neglecting the child in the first place. It wouldn't happen so often if stupid cunts didn't willingly leave their children in a vulnerable position.
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 6:03 am
What a pity the non prison public don't get to hear more of "the justice" doled out in prisons
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 6:06 am
(December 2, 2013 at 6:03 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: What a pity the non prison public don't get to hear more of "the justice" doled out in prisons ![Thinking Thinking](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/thinking.gif)
Indeed. It has a certain crude symmetry to it. Interesting that there is a code even in prison. Disembowling someone is OK, kiddie fiddling is not.
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 6:08 am
(December 2, 2013 at 6:01 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Where the fuck was this boy's mother? That what I always fail to understand when I read stories of little boys getting sexually abused by "holy men" or whatever. Where are the mothers? Who thinks it's OK to leave their little boy alone with a dirty old man? Honestly... They should be held accountable for neglecting the child in the first place. It wouldn't happen so often if stupid cunts didn't willingly leave their children in a vulnerable position.
Ah, but you've forgotten that little mindworm of religion, inculcating a trust of preachers, designating religion the only possible way to be good! You see a dirty old man, but to those in the religion, you're looking at one of god's conduits on earth. Really, it's a perfect position from which to prey on the helpless.
Which is what religion really is.
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 6:23 am
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Yup, priests shouldn't fear their god. They should fear the prisons.
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 6:36 am
As the good book says
Anyone who is destined for prison will be taken to prison. Anyone destined to die by the sword will die by the sword. And anybody who defiles children, the cons will straight Fuck that douche up, yea even unto splitting them from arse hole to breakfast and pulling out their kidneys.
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Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Another reason to abandon the abrahamic religions
December 2, 2013 at 10:34 am
Personally I think its fucked up that America who has the ability to change this system (and whose representatives are mostly Christian) still allows sodomization (rape) to occur in prisons and thinks that that is justice. Two wrongs don't make a right. What if you were put into prison an innocent man for raping a kid and then got raped from ass to breakfast?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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