Atheists condone and condemn rape

[Nineteen]

Yeah, about that.....
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...eDSGpy-zPS

So, it looks like Muslims do believe the death penalty is fair punishment for rape.... but the rapist isn't the one they kill. Good job.

Allah does not command such a penalty . Even the penalty for victim is nonsense .

[EgoRaptor]

Because you're supposed to abide by the rules of that country. It's a free country and Allah will deal with these individuals

I know a few apostates who were born Muslim. They know very little in fact about a Islam unfortunately based on their historically inadequate comments. Do I hate them no nor do I dislike them. I don't go out of my way to chill with these types of individuals. Allah will deal with them in the long run and If they have any questions about Islam I will gladly answer them.

So you don't hate them, you just want them dead?

[Sleepy]

If it was in a Muslim country and they were out bragging about it, or attempting to spread lies than it's ok. Otherwise if they want to be atheists and live in a Muslim country they can do so if they keep belief or disbelief to themselves

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Yet a few pages ago you said I was lying about my Christian School friend's family having to flee Iran in the late 1980s. You're a compulsive liar. Get help.

I never doubted they left. A lot of Iranians did who drank, went to nightclubs, amongst other things. They wanted to live these lifestyles and really Iran is not for them if that's what they want

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When can I get those cookies though

[NoraBrimstone]

And you really don't see what's morally wrong about that???

What am I saying? Of course you don't. You wouldn't know morality if it sat on your face.

[Sleepy]

They didn't leave for fear of life as many liberal Iranians still live in Iran. They left because they wanted to drink, dance, party and that's not what Islam is about. Islam is about virtues, morals, seeking knowledge

The only thing I want to sit on my face is those ginger bread cookies

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Move to Florida

[ablenova]

One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything.

Some may believe killing is bad, others it's ok( evolutionary asserting your dominance)
Rape is bad, rape is ok( dominant mammal satisfying sexual desire)

In fact the latter of the two is most in line with atheists as they love to talk about evolutionary adaptations.

So why can't humans rape? Any atheists that condemn rape first of all are going against relativism and assuming there should absolutely be no rape. According to whom? According to whom should there be no rape?
The answer is clear, Allah prohibits rape. The penalty is death.

Atheists live in contradictions, relativity is the foundation of atheisms while many atheists are 'condemning' rape. Rape is jus another action relative to that individual. So it's illogical for atheists to condemn it.

Islam= Probibits rape
Atheists= rape is ok to some and bad to some

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Atheist responses- it's bad. You can't force somebody.

Why not? Why is it 'bad'? What's wrong with a male spreading his genes through dominating a weaker individual. Survival of the fittest right? Why is it 'wrong'?

Your mistake is you think "Evolution of the Species" is equivelant to the Quran or some other monolithic religious text. It is not. We do not pray to Darwin before we go to sleep.

[Duck]

Because you're supposed to abide by the rules of that country. It's a free country and Allah will deal with these individuals

I know a few apostates who were born Muslim. They know very little in fact about a Islam unfortunately based on their historically inadequate comments. Do I hate them no nor do I dislike them. I don't go out of my way to chill with these types of individuals. Allah will deal with them in the long run and If they have any questions about Islam I will gladly answer them.

Most Muslim countries I have been to are far from free. And surely Allah would rather you obeyed him than some collection of non-believing men and women?

And this doesn't answer the question of morality, unless it is moral to obey the law of the land. Does this mean 'blasphemy' and wiping the toilet with the Quran is OK if the law says you need to do it? If not, then morality isn't dependent on the law of the land is it?

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If it was in a Muslim country and they were out bragging about it, or attempting to spread lies than it's ok. Otherwise if they want to be atheists and live in a Muslim country they can do so if they keep belief or disbelief to themselves

Why that is mighty nice of you. What would the punishment be if I spoke up and told everyone about my lack of belief? If I started talking to Muslims and advancing the idea that there is no God?

[Sleepy]

If the law is infringing on Muslims than you don't have to follow it. Morality comes from religion, majority of laws come from religion

Islam doesn't mention property taxes but every Muslim in a country that has property taxes has to do it. There's no mention of not littering but if it's against the law you can't. That's clear and obvious

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If it was in Iran you might be imprisoned for some time, lashings, or killed. Not because they're scared you might 'awaken the truth' but because we all know Allah is there. Islam is the true religion of humanity and that behavior is done by those who are against Islam and it's not for for an Islamic society. If you're in a country you have to follow its rules

[NoraBrimstone]

They didn't leave for fear of life as many liberal Iranians still live in Iran. They left because they wanted to drink, dance, party and that's not what Islam is about. Islam is about virtues, morals, seeking knowledge

The only thing I want to sit on my face is those ginger bread cookies

No. They left Iran because they'd have been shot if they stayed.

Do you know these people? No? Then what the fuck are you talking about? Making shit up about people you know almost nothing about it fucking crazy. And as I said, they were Christians when they left. That's why they were wanted "criminals."

Similarly, I had a lovely Muslim Iranian couple living on my floor a few years ago who also had to flee Iran to avoid being shot.

You don't seem to know much about Iran. I mean, I don't either, but I still seem to know more than you do.

[Sleepy]

Based on logic you can stump a Christian about Christianity's beliefs. You will never be able to stump a Muslim and Islam because Islam is 100% logical.