I need a volunteer

[Bad Wolf]

I asked you a question dickwad, answer it.

[Tonus]

I would have thought that those who got confused would be those who say that God does not exist considering also that they can not bring any evidence forward.

If you can't bring any evidence forward, wouldn't that support the belief that god does not exist?

[Severan]

What does my heart have to do with love? It's just a pump. :/

Gee, is that true?
Now i will have to find out where love is generated from.
Somebody here say that love is a chemical reaction.
But what about the glands that control our life?
At every step of the spinal cord a particular gland control a particular thing or factor.
The pituary gland is controlling the mind not the liquid or solid factors.
At the same time the glands controlling the solid, liquid, energy or air factors are not controlling the mind so there has got to be a place where good feeling like love is coming from.
Unlike the solid factors love is a non physical factor so it will be a bit difficult to be grasped by a physical approach.
What i would like to know from you considering that you seem to be expert in these things is.........IF LOVE IS NOT GENERATED IN THE HEART IS PERHAPS GENERATED IN THE BACKSIDE?

Love is reciprocal. Anybody you love, anybody you have that 'feeling' for, is either taking care of you, standing up for you, or a possible mate.

Do you love complete strangers off the street, like you do family members, friends, and wives? I don't think so.

[pocaracas]

Flawed analogy is..... FLAWED!

If you don't like the analogy why don't you bring concrete evidence that the consciousness die when the body die after all is you guys that say that the life is finite so is you that got to bring forward the evidence.

You make it soooo easy... -.-'

I observe people dying.
I do not observe people's consciousness persisting after the body dies.

Why should anyone even consider the proposition that this consciousness doesn't die with the body?

Perhaps you should try to define "life", before you consider it infinite...

[Severan]

Grave yards are full of the evidence for the end of life.

Grave yards are full of rotting bodies as wrecker yards are full of rusting cars.
Can you see the drivers inside these rusting Cars?
Can you see people consciousness inside these rotting bodies?
Did Santa told you that the driver has got to follow the rotting body?

Unfortunately, the second law of thermodynamics stops you there.

As time goes on, the universe becomes more disordered. This is constantly happening until it all is disordered. Humans can only be ordered by using energy and exporting disorder.

The second law can be proven by throwing a deck of cards in the air 2 billion times. Do you expect it to fall right back into the same place, in the same order, and in a deck? No! It takes energy to get those cards back together.

Now, we will apply the second law to your "finite life" question. Life is order. The universe moves towards disorder. Eventually, life cannot keep up enough energy to keep order. Life becomes disorder, and is no more.

You see where I'm going?. I just proved that death exists. Deal with it.

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There may not be evidence to disprove a god's existence (for now), but there is plenty to limit a god into something that doesn't interact, non-omniscient, and non-omnipotent, heartless, fuck-up that did not create anything and has no power in this universe.

Just like there's no evidence for aliens, but we can say that we have yet to find solid evidence, and if they do exist, they are likely primitive or very far away. We can also say which planets most likely do not have life.

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Also, I want to point out that the person who made the claim must support the claim, and knock down the counter-claims. It seems atheists have been the ones doing this so far. Christians should have their turn.

So, first: prove to me that a god does exist, and then we'll talk.

[Esquilax]

What sort of idiot are you?
Who ever denigrate science?
Or you are not reading my post carefully or you twist my words.
I said that physical science including medical science help in keeping humanity afloat but in no way can lead to real progress.
This does not mean that i denigrate science as without physical science humanity could not stay afloat.

Ah, so it was the usual unthinking word salad, I see.

Rebutting is one thing, bring forward evidence is a different story.
Again you find difficult to understand the meaning of the words.

Yes, and the way one rebuts arguments is to show that the evidence and observations of the real world do not fit the conclusions that you have drawn.

So, are you telling me that the atheist position is such and such?
What you do when an atheist say that God does not exist?
Do you smack them and tell them that they should only say that is up to theists to bring evidence to the contrary?
How ridiculous you are!
There are a lot of atheist clearly say that God does not exist.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-8067-page-53.html

Aw, someone never learned the difference between "I don't believe a god exists," and "I believe no gods exist."

Why don't you start a boys atheist club strictly forbidden to people who challenge your dogmas like to say that life is finite?
Just think about.
You would get a forum free from dangerous obstacles so you can keep on masturbating your brains.

Okay, you've officially repeated yourself to the point that I'd feel comfortable reporting you for spamming.

[Little Rik]

Ah, so it was the usual unthinking word salad, I see.

More then a salad was a bone that you find hard to digest.
You still haven't got a clue about the difference between staying afloat and making progress.

Yes, and the way one rebuts arguments is to show that the evidence and observations of the real world do not fit the conclusions that you have drawn.

An argument can be rebut with false evidence.

Aw, someone never learned the difference between "I don't believe a god exists," and "I believe no gods exist."

Gee, must be the time for me to enroll in a English course.
Your intellectual extravaganza is astonish i just can't follow you anymore.

Okay, you've officially repeated yourself to the point that I'd feel comfortable reporting you for spamming.

So now you go crying to mummy that the dwarf clown stole your lolly?
That lolly was so good and now you got absolutely nothing and even mummy can not help you.
Your lolly was the dogma or false belief that life is finite that there is no God that science can lead to real progress and so on.
But maybe mummy can help you.
She can not give you one more lolly because she run out of lollies but she can kick the dwarf clown out the forum so the order is re-establish and you can keep on masturbating your brains (what is left) thinking that you are right and the dwarf clown never existed.

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Unfortunately, the second law of thermodynamics stops you there. As time goes on, the universe becomes more disordered. This is constantly happening until it all is disordered. Humans can only be ordered by using energy and exporting disorder. The second law can be proven by throwing a deck of cards in the air 2 billion times. Do you expect it to fall right back into the same place, in the same order, and in a deck? No! It takes energy to get those cards back together. Now, we will apply the second law to your "finite life" question. Life is order. The universe moves towards disorder. Eventually, life cannot keep up enough energy to keep order. Life becomes disorder, and is no more. You see where I'm going?. I just proved that death exists. Deal with it.

Gee, your laws are very very difficult to understand.
Fortunately the universal laws are a lot more simple to understand.
The universe recycle itself all the time and the energy never get lost and with it the consciousness that move along this never ending cycle.

There may not be evidence to disprove a god's existence (for now)

Gee, you haven't find out after a million year of human life so you still keep the hope that you may find in the future!.
I admire your blind faith.

but there is plenty to limit a god into something that doesn't interact, non-omniscient, and non-omnipotent, heartless, fuck-up that did not create anything and has no power in this universe.

You are running far too much with your fantasy.
Why God should interact with you when you are not interested in him?

Just like there's no evidence for aliens, but we can say that we have yet to find solid evidence, and if they do exist, they are likely primitive or very far away. We can also say which planets most likely do not have life.
Also, I want to point out that the person who made the claim must support the claim, and knock down the counter-claims. It seems atheists have been the ones doing this so far. Christians should have their turn.
So, first: prove to me that a god does exist, and then we'll talk.

Since the birth of human existence there were people who curse God well before someone told them that God exist.
When something trouble them they blame God.
Other people thought that God exist for different reasons.
Different people assume that God exist or does not exist for so many different reasons.
You can assume and go on and on with these theories for ever and ever and at the end getting nowhere.
To me the only way to understand how the system works is to expand the consciousness and dig the spiritual gold that lie within.
All the rest is a universe full of assumptions worth nothing.

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You make it soooo easy... -.-' I observe people dying.
I do not observe people's consciousness persisting after the body dies.
Why should anyone even consider the proposition that this consciousness doesn't die with the body?

You assume that your physical senses can detect something NON-physical like the consciousness.
You got big expectation boy.

Perhaps you should try to define "life", before you consider it infinite...

Life is the driver of the vehicle called body.

[Little Rik]

I would have thought that those who got confused would be those who say that God does not exist considering also that they can not bring any evidence forward.

If you can't bring any evidence forward, wouldn't that support the belief that god does not exist?

We already talk about NDE's experiences and evidences.

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I asked you a question dickwad, answer it.

Before i can answer you you got to learn good manners.
At the moment you can keep on talking with drunks in the pub.

[Tonus]

We already talk about NDE's experiences and evidences.

Yes, and you got your head handed to you on a platter, multiple times. That does serve as evidence, but not in the way you seem to think.

[Dragonetti]

Fighter Pilots who do G-Force training experience NDE.