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December 26, 2013 at 11:46 am
Enrico, you pathetic little man, I also have just reported you for spamming due to yet another refusal to answer a question.
Do you believe in bigfoot, unicorns, mothman, leprechauns etc? Because, just like your god, there is no evidence that they don't exist. And that is one of the reasons you gave for believing in god isn't it? That there is no evidence he doesn't exist. So by that logic, you should believe anything and everything that you are told, simply because it can't be proved to not exist.
See everyone, this is the result of logic NOT being taught in schools.
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RE: I need a volunteer
December 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2013 at 3:14 pm by Severan.)
(December 25, 2013 at 7:08 pm)Severan Wrote: Unfortunately, the second law of thermodynamics stops you there. As time goes on, the universe becomes more disordered. This is constantly happening until it all is disordered. Humans can only be ordered by using energy and exporting disorder. The second law can be proven by throwing a deck of cards in the air 2 billion times. Do you expect it to fall right back into the same place, in the same order, and in a deck? No! It takes energy to get those cards back together. Now, we will apply the second law to your "finite life" question. Life is order. The universe moves towards disorder. Eventually, life cannot keep up enough energy to keep order. Life becomes disorder, and is no more. You see where I'm going?. I just proved that death exists. Deal with it.
"Gee, your laws are very very difficult to understand.
Fortunately the universal laws are a lot more simple to understand.
The universe recycle itself all the time and the energy never get lost and with it the consciousness that move along this never ending cycle.  "
You should really research what 'physics' is.
(December 26, 2013 at 11:46 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Enrico, you pathetic little man, I also have just reported you for spamming due to yet another refusal to answer a question.
Do you believe in bigfoot, unicorns, mothman, leprechauns etc? Because, just like your god, there is no evidence that they don't exist. And that is one of the reasons you gave for believing in god isn't it? That there is no evidence he doesn't exist. So by that logic, you should believe anything and everything that you are told, simply because it can't be proved to not exist.
See everyone, this is the result of logic NOT being taught in schools. Even though there is no or little evidence that they don't exist, there is absolutely none for their existence. Theist claims are taken down quickly by atheists. People like Dawkins scare christians.
Speaking of which, where's Min when you really need him?
"In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, often taken to be a measure of disorder, or a measure of progressing towards thermodynamic equilibrium. The entropy of an isolated system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve towards thermodynamic equilibrium, which is the state of maximum entropy."
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RE: I need a volunteer
December 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm
(December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: (December 25, 2013 at 7:00 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You make it soooo easy... -.-' I observe people dying.
I do not observe people's consciousness persisting after the body dies.
Why should anyone even consider the proposition that this consciousness doesn't die with the body?
You assume that your physical senses can detect something NON-physical like the consciousness.
You got big expectation boy. I assume someone must have done that... or else how would you know about it?!
(December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: Quote:Perhaps you should try to define "life", before you consider it infinite...
Life is the driver of the vehicle called body. 
Perhaps I need to reiterate that the analogy is flawed!
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December 26, 2013 at 7:06 pm
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(December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: Life is the driver of the vehicle called body.
Let me show you how this just comes back to hurt you.
Does life leave the body to go inside the house and watch tv? No. This means that life is bound to the body. When the body dies, so does the 'life' aka consciousness. Please do not post flawed analogies.
You seem to be so very ignorant to the evidence and reasoning stacked up against you. Please do lots of research.
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RE: I need a volunteer
December 26, 2013 at 7:26 pm
(December 26, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Severan Wrote: Please do not post flawed analogies.
If Enrico didn't have flawed analogies, he wouldn't have any analogies at all.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: I need a volunteer
December 26, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Geeez. This is still going on?! My Mt. Soledad thread is starting to get a lil' jelly.
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December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am
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(December 26, 2013 at 11:46 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Enrico, you pathetic little man, I also have just reported you for spamming due to yet another refusal to answer a question.
Do you believe in bigfoot, unicorns, mothman, leprechauns etc? Because, just like your god, there is no evidence that they don't exist. And that is one of the reasons you gave for believing in god isn't it? That there is no evidence he doesn't exist. So by that logic, you should believe anything and everything that you are told, simply because it can't be proved to not exist.
See everyone, this is the result of logic NOT being taught in schools.
That is interesting.
You report me for not answer you.
Why should i answer an idiot like you?
Actually i should have reported you for not answer me after i asked you to give me evidence about your statement that life is finite but i am not a prick like you that go crying to mummy when the dwarf clown take away the lolly that kept your small brain alive.
Go back to the pub amongst your drunk friend little boy.
(December 26, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Severan Wrote: (December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: Life is the driver of the vehicle called body.
Let me show you how this just comes back to hurt you.
Does life leave the body to go inside the house and watch tv? No. This means that life is bound to the body. When the body dies, so does the 'life' aka consciousness. Please do not post flawed analogies.
You seem to be so very ignorant to the evidence and reasoning stacked up against you. Please do lots of research.
Beside analogies that you can not rebut there are also thousand of nde's experiences that come with evidence.
On the other hand you got nothing that proof that the body and consciousness die together.
When you will bring evidence forward then we will talk about.
(December 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: You assume that your physical senses can detect something NON-physical like the consciousness.
You got big expectation boy. I assume someone must have done that... or else how would you know about it?!
NDE's.
Thousand of them.
(December 26, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote: Life is the driver of the vehicle called body.
Quote:Perhaps I need to reiterate that the analogy is flawed!
As far as you can not rebut it with real evidence it is not flawed.
(December 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm)Severan Wrote: You should really research what 'physics' is.
The laws that control the physical arena can not control what is behind such a world.
While physical laws are keeping the balance by the positive and the negative factors spirituality does not have the negative factor so when you try to put both on the same level you will be disappointed to see that consciousness will not be affected by the body end.
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December 27, 2013 at 3:41 am
Enrico, you don't answer anyone, that's the problem.
And please, do report Bad Wolf. I'd love a real opportunity to slap a ban on you, and abusing the report system would be a nice first step. 
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RE: I need a volunteer
December 27, 2013 at 3:56 am
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote: That is interesting.
You report me for not answer you.
Not just that, all you have ever done on this forum is make blank assertions again and again and repeat the same fallicy ridden arguments over and over taking no notice of what anyone else says. In short, spamming.
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote: Actually i should have reported you for not answer me after i asked you to give me evidence about your statement that life is finite
Well firstly, you are a liar, I did indeed answer you question. If you actually understood logic, you would realise that the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence that life is finite, and thefore I am under no obligation to provide evidence of any kind. You have not met the burden of proof.
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote: but i am not a prick like you that go crying to mummy when the dwarf clown take away the lolly that kept your small brain alive.
Go back to the pub amongst your drunk friend little boy.
Dwarf clown? Lolly? And you are calling me drunk! Did you have a stroke while writing this part?
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote: Beside analogies that you can not rebut there are also thousand of nde's experiences that come with evidence.
Analogies are not evidence, period. NDE's fall under that category.
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote: On the other hand you got nothing that proof that the body and consciousness die together.
And you have no proof that the body and consciousness don't die together. As I have previously explained, you have the burden of proof as you are making the claim, but as you have made it clear so far, you don't understand this.
(December 27, 2013 at 2:59 am)enrico Wrote: The laws that control the physical arena can not control what is behind such a world.
While physical laws are keeping the balance by the positive and the negative factors spirituality does not have the negative factor so when you try to put both on the same level you will be disappointed to see that consciousness will not be affected by the body end.
See this is what everyone gets pissed about. This is a prime example of you spamming. You have repeated this same nonsense multiple times while providing no evidence to support it. If you are banned, this will be the reason.
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RE: I need a volunteer
December 27, 2013 at 4:51 am
(December 27, 2013 at 3:41 am)Esquilax Wrote: Enrico, you don't answer anyone, that's the problem.
Actually when i do have enough time i do answer.
It may not be the answer that people like but i do answer.
Quote:And please, do report Bad Wolf.
Why should i waste my time reporting people.
If reporting would help re-educating people i would report all the time.
Unfortunately some people never learn so there is no point in reporting.
I was feeling reporting when some people swear direct to me and when other people divert my thread with pornographic pictures but what is the point.
Idiots don't change that easily.
Quote:I'd love a real opportunity to slap a ban on you, and abusing the report system would be a nice first step.
There are two ways to deal with this sort of things.
One is reporting in the hope that the problem goes away. (it never goes away)
The other is to not reporting and to grow up so you can deal with the problem instead of hiding the problem under the carpet.
Now i have said so many things that are not easily proven using a physical approach on the other hand you guys have said a lot of other things which can not be proven using any approach at all like to say that life is finite and that science create progress.
Where is your burden of proof?
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