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RE: EVERYTHING THE RELIGIOUS CLAIM IS PROVEN FALSE
December 11, 2013 at 7:55 am
Big difference is that science has an in-built mechanism for correcting errors, false data or deliberate lies. There is nothing in religion that even comes close.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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December 11, 2013 at 8:01 am
In fact, just the opposite. The scientific paradigm is about trying to DISPROVE your hypothesis. The religious paradigm is based around confirmation bias.
However, to the majority, science is counter intuitive. Perhaps that's why religion is so pervasive. Science sets itself rules to follow. Religion does not.
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December 11, 2013 at 8:05 am
There is much in what you say, smooth one.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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December 11, 2013 at 8:08 am
I don't worship science, as many a theist has accused me, but I do get a semi when I read a really well constructed piece of research. One or two pieces have actually caused me to jazz myself.
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December 11, 2013 at 10:03 am
(December 11, 2013 at 4:54 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: You allow for continued development in scientific understanding, but when it comes to religion everything has to be exactly right from the start?
We do not expect to approach them the same way. A scientist is trying to understand how the natural world works. This involves a lot of groping about in the dark and building knowledge and taking wrong turns and getting closer and closer to the truth. A religious person believes that there is a being who created everything and therefore knows how it all works and provided a written manifesto of some sort. Why would the religious person not have everything exactly right from the start if he got his owner's manual from the guy who built everything?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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December 11, 2013 at 3:07 pm
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(December 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 8:08 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I don't worship science, as many a theist has accused me, but I do get a semi when I read a really well constructed piece of research. One or two pieces have actually caused me to jazz myself.
Like this?
I TOLD THEM TO TAKE THAT CLIP DOWN!!
Example. If you're not familiar with it, Google the "rosenhan experiment". And the less well known but even cleverer follow up.
Some people have brains you just want to remove from their heads and cuddle for being so beautiful.
That sounded a bit deranged didn't it...
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December 31, 2013 at 11:14 pm
The Rosenhan experiment, the only evidence on earth that could point to the real batman.