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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 8:12 pm
I wouldn't want to see anyone coming into a store with everything covered. It would look suspicious, like they're about to rob the place. It would be kind of funny, having this discussion with a muslim person. One side saying she should cover everything because she'd risk going to hell (because muslim men don't know how to keep it in their pants), and me saying it looks suspicious because she's concealing her identity.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 8:17 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: (December 10, 2013 at 7:12 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: I say ban the burka & all other Islamic headwear (along with the public display of all other religious symbols).
Why, because it makes you uncomfortable? No, to defend secularism.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 8:20 pm
It is called the niqab... the full face covering. This I think should not be tolerated in secular societies where the exposure of the face is the norm.
I do feel pity for those who insist on wearing the full burka or chardor in Australia as the temperatures here can get very high even in the early hours of the morning
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 10:31 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 8:17 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: (December 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Why, because it makes you uncomfortable? No, to defend secularism.
Secularism doesn't mean no freedom of religion. It just means governing decisions aren't made for religious reasons and the governing body doesn't impose religions on people.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 10:31 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: (December 10, 2013 at 8:17 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: No, to defend secularism.
Secularism doesn't mean no freedom of religion. It just means governing decisions aren't made for religious reasons and the governing body doesn't impose religions on people. It also means religion out of the public square.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 10:44 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: (December 10, 2013 at 10:31 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Secularism doesn't mean no freedom of religion. It just means governing decisions aren't made for religious reasons and the governing body doesn't impose religions on people. It also means religion out of the public square.
Could you define what you mean by public square? And I think that adhering to a religion is not the same as bringing religious thoughts to something. A muslim accountant who wears a hijab while doing her job isn't bringing religion into her job. It's still the same job.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 10:44 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2013 at 10:45 pm by Lemonvariable72.)
Man a burka would be a thef's best friend.
What is to stop a criminal man from pretending he is a woman to clean out a store?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 10:49 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 10:44 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: (December 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: It also means religion out of the public square.
Could you define what you mean by public square? And I think that adhering to a religion is not the same as bringing religious thoughts to something. A muslim accountant who wears a hijab while doing her job isn't bringing religion into her job. It's still the same job. It means that religion must be kept to yourself. So no displaying it!
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 10:53 pm
(December 10, 2013 at 10:49 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: (December 10, 2013 at 10:44 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Could you define what you mean by public square? And I think that adhering to a religion is not the same as bringing religious thoughts to something. A muslim accountant who wears a hijab while doing her job isn't bringing religion into her job. It's still the same job. It means that religion must be kept to yourself. So no displaying it!
If that is secularism I'm no longer for secularism. But I highly doubt that's what secularism is.
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RE: Jasmine Loves Children, Magic & Freedom (This Prompts Muslim OutRage)
December 10, 2013 at 11:04 pm
The big problem is the idea of "saving" people. Actually practicing Mathew 6, and keeping your religion private, goes against the idea that they're trying to keep people from going to hell. So every second spent not praising Yahweh is a second you risk burning forever. So they have to spread it everywhere.
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