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Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
#31
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: I agree. Most Atheists exhibit this behavior. Lack of social controls come from rebellion against the natural laws engaged in nature and an unwillingness to value authority. The symmetry and beauty nature displays is directly inverse to the invariant and translational symmetries governing the Proton and Neutron (Strong Nuclear Force). The strong forces heels (authority over) the weak. This is why a Christian can remain patient under adversity. Turning the other cheek is an out-flowing of the Spirit within. What's in the well comes up in the bucket. Patience is a person's threshold of restraint before going negative.

The laws of nature are invariant, just as a platonic solid is the same no matter how you rotate it. Goodness, as mirrored by wickedness, is a condition of the heart that comes out clearly when ad hominem attacks manifest from inside to outside. I will offer proof of this later in this thread as we measure patience and kind words from those who respond. For now, read the definition of psychopathic behavior. Judge for yourself. I am a Christian with a wide understanding of what it means to have patience, gentleness, goodness and kindness. It's something I work on each day.

I look forward to good conversation centered on goodness and heartfelt answers. I have come to expect brotherly love from you guys.

"Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) (or sociopathy (/ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/)) is defined as either an aspect of personality or as a personality disorder, characterized by enduring dissocial or antisocial behavior, a diminished capacity for empathy or remorse, and poor behavioral controls or fearless dominance. There are various definitions which are only partly overlapping and sometimes appear contradictory." Wikipedia

People who are willing and eager participants in a system based upon blackmail and threats, with a history of doctrinally-supported genocide and other assorted acts of evil, who both justify and glorify those acts of evil, are the psychopaths.

Christianity is basically organized social psychopathy, both in theory and especially in practice.

Taking the name requires taking the character of what the name represents. In the cases you are speaking of, the name was taken in vain. Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, which were none of those things you mention. I will agree that there are many who are self-righteous. This is the same as wickedness. It has been my experience that most Atheists come across as self-righteous and judgmental of others. It is also true that many Christians are the same. This does not imply that the name and character of Christ is the same thing. To say so is simple prejudice.

Do all African Americans grow up in single parent homes simply because many do? No. You paint with a wide brush and ignore the billions that are out serving others every day.

Who was first to show up on the scene in Joplin after the tornadoes? Christians. Who is still there cleaning up today? You guessed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZw6cZ6c-gU
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#32
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm)StrongWaters Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm)Ryantology Wrote: People who are willing and eager participants in a system based upon blackmail and threats, with a history of doctrinally-supported genocide and other assorted acts of evil, who both justify and glorify those acts of evil, are the psychopaths.

Christianity is basically organized social psychopathy, both in theory and especially in practice.

Taking the name requires taking the character of what the name represents. In the cases you are speaking of, the name was taken in vain. Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, which were none of those things you mention. I will agree that there are many who are self-righteous. This is the same as wickedness. It has been my experience that most Atheists come across as self-righteous and judgmental of others. It is also true that many Christians are the same. This does not imply that the name and character of Christ is the same thing. To say so is simple prejudice.

Do all African Americans grow up in single parent homes simply because many do? No. You paint with a wide brush and ignore the billions that are out serving others every day.

Who was first to show up on the scene in Joplin after the tornadoes? Christians. Who is still there cleaning up today? You guessed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZw6cZ6c-gU
There you go again, I promise one thing, many you atheists you meet in your life you likely have no idea they are atheists. Why? Because most keep it to ourselves and don't wear it on our chests. You on the other hand, since your a chrisitian that has come to tell us atheist how we are wrong, I have no doubt you make it clear your a christian.
What he is talking about is Christianity as a institution. If that tornado hit in Saudi Arabia it would've been a Muslim organization the scene, if it hit in Germany a atheist organization on the scene. It just happens to be the American Midwest is like 95% christian.
Speaking about calling other judgmental, didn't you just say most athiests are psychopaths?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#33
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: "Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) (or sociopathy (/ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/)) is defined as either an aspect of personality or as a personality disorder, characterized by enduring dissocial or antisocial behavior, a diminished capacity for empathy or remorse, and poor behavioral controls or fearless dominance. There are various definitions which are only partly overlapping and sometimes appear contradictory." Wikipedia

You know in the part you bolded you described the god of the bible perfectly?

By enduring dissocial or antisocial behavior.
-God rarely had contact and one only with one tribe at that before christ, and has not communicated directly with any person since paul.

A diminished capacity for empathy or remorse
-God ordered the genocide ofMidianites, Canaanites and Amalekites, to be slaughter with mercy and is angry when mercy is shown to the Amalekites. He has yet to show any remorse.

Poor behavioral controls or fearless dominance
God demonstrates both.
In genesis he destroys the tower of babel and scatter the poeple to the four winds because he was afraid of them. In genesis he also killed everyone on earth except moah and his family, because they didn't do what he wanted.

You cannot prove something using a concept you deny as true. I do believe it is true. Galatians 5 shows the difference between the centered heart and the Psychopath. It's the fruit that revels the heart.

Galatians 5

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

The subject of this thread is unsocial behavior exhibited by the Psychopath. Clearly, it's an issue with the Heart. The Bible is the authority on the subject. God is the law regulating the thief. If we love others, no law is necessary. Love is the antidote to hate. You can't put out fire with more fire.

(December 11, 2013 at 11:01 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Taking the name requires taking the character of what the name represents. In the cases you are speaking of, the name was taken in vain. Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, which were none of those things you mention. I will agree that there are many who are self-righteous. This is the same as wickedness. It has been my experience that most Atheists come across as self-righteous and judgmental of others. It is also true that many Christians are the same. This does not imply that the name and character of Christ is the same thing. To say so is simple prejudice.

Do all African Americans grow up in single parent homes simply because many do? No. You paint with a wide brush and ignore the billions that are out serving others every day.

Who was first to show up on the scene in Joplin after the tornadoes? Christians. Who is still there cleaning up today? You guessed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZw6cZ6c-gU
There you go again, I promise one thing, many you atheists you meet in your life you likely have no idea they are atheists. Why? Because most keep it to ourselves and don't wear it on our chests. You on the other hand, since your a chrisitian that has come to tell us atheist how we are wrong, I have no doubt you make it clear your a christian.
What he is talking about is Christianity as a institution. If that tornado hit in Saudi Arabia it would've been a Muslim organization the scene, if it hit in Germany a atheist organization on the scene. It just happens to be the American Midwest is like 95% christian.
Speaking about calling other judgmental, didn't you just say most athiests are psychopaths?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...frica&sm=3

Think again.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...ussia&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...china&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...india&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...zuela&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...haiti&sm=3

Billions and billions of people spending hundreds of billions on others every year. I did not make this thread. It was made to make the Christian look like a psychopath. Clearly, the hearts of Christians are right with the lawgiver. Giving is the key to faith and faith is taking the name (Character).

Pride in a job well done is not pride over others. It's doing the right thing and appreciating the one that gave you the chance.
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#34
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Taking the name requires taking the character of what the name represents. In the cases you are speaking of, the name was taken in vain. Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, which were none of those things you mention. I will agree that there are many who are self-righteous. This is the same as wickedness. It has been my experience that most Atheists come across as self-righteous and judgmental of others. It is also true that many Christians are the same. This does not imply that the name and character of Christ is the same thing. To say so is simple prejudice.

The character Jesus set up a system in which you are damned to an eternity of misery unless you bow down and enslave your mind, body and spirit to him.

Quote:Do all African Americans grow up in single parent homes simply because many do? No. You paint with a wide brush and ignore the billions that are out serving others every day.

Who was first to show up on the scene in Joplin after the tornadoes? Christians. Who is still there cleaning up today? You guessed it.

Who are the ones singing the praises of a deity who either directly caused or, through neglect, allowed so much devastation to happen in the first place? 158 people died in that tornado, and most of them were certainly Christians. Praise the Lord.
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#35
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 11:02 pm)StrongWaters Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 8:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: You know in the part you bolded you described the god of the bible perfectly?

By enduring dissocial or antisocial behavior.
-God rarely had contact and one only with one tribe at that before christ, and has not communicated directly with any person since paul.

A diminished capacity for empathy or remorse
-God ordered the genocide ofMidianites, Canaanites and Amalekites, to be slaughter with mercy and is angry when mercy is shown to the Amalekites. He has yet to show any remorse.

Poor behavioral controls or fearless dominance
God demonstrates both.
In genesis he destroys the tower of babel and scatter the poeple to the four winds because he was afraid of them. In genesis he also killed everyone on earth except moah and his family, because they didn't do what he wanted.

You cannot prove something using a concept you deny as true. I do believe it is true. Galatians 5 shows the difference between the centered heart and the Psychopath. It's the fruit that revels the heart.

Galatians 5

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

The subject of this thread is unsocial behavior exhibited by the Psychopath. Clearly, it's an issue with the Heart. The Bible is the authority on the subject. God is the law regulating the thief. If we love others, no law is necessary. Love is the antidote to hate. You can't put out fire with more fire.

(December 11, 2013 at 11:01 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There you go again, I promise one thing, many you atheists you meet in your life you likely have no idea they are atheists. Why? Because most keep it to ourselves and don't wear it on our chests. You on the other hand, since your a chrisitian that has come to tell us atheist how we are wrong, I have no doubt you make it clear your a christian.
What he is talking about is Christianity as a institution. If that tornado hit in Saudi Arabia it would've been a Muslim organization the scene, if it hit in Germany a atheist organization on the scene. It just happens to be the American Midwest is like 95% christian.
Speaking about calling other judgmental, didn't you just say most athiests are psychopaths?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...frica&sm=3

Think again.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...ussia&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...china&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...india&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...zuela&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_qu...haiti&sm=3

Billions and billions of people spending hundreds of billions on others every year. I did not make this thread. It was made to make the Christian look like a psychopath. Clearly, the hearts of Christians are right with the lawgiver. Giving is the key to faith and faith is taking the name (Character).

Pride in a job well done is not pride over others. It's doing the right thing and appreciating the one that gave you the chance.

Thats great, but you can such videos for any group religious or not. My question is why do you think these people wouldn't give if they weren't christian? Your response is mostly a evasion, I never said christian groups don't help people although it is not the billion that you claim (there is around 330 million people in the U.S). Also are you trying to tell me that the words of a man take precedence over the action of god in your bible? If no then why even mention them, I was challenging you on the actions of god himself.

(December 11, 2013 at 11:08 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Taking the name requires taking the character of what the name represents. In the cases you are speaking of, the name was taken in vain. Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, which were none of those things you mention. I will agree that there are many who are self-righteous. This is the same as wickedness. It has been my experience that most Atheists come across as self-righteous and judgmental of others. It is also true that many Christians are the same. This does not imply that the name and character of Christ is the same thing. To say so is simple prejudice.

The character Jesus set up a system in which you are damned to an eternity of misery unless you bow down and enslave your mind, body and spirit to him.

Quote:Do all African Americans grow up in single parent homes simply because many do? No. You paint with a wide brush and ignore the billions that are out serving others every day.

Who was first to show up on the scene in Joplin after the tornadoes? Christians. Who is still there cleaning up today? You guessed it.

Who are the ones singing the praises of a deity who either directly caused or, through neglect, allowed so much devastation to happen in the first place? 158 people died in that tornado, and most of them were certainly Christians. Praise the Lord.

It's like a child cleaning up after his alcoholic daddy
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#36
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 11:08 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Taking the name requires taking the character of what the name represents. In the cases you are speaking of, the name was taken in vain. Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, which were none of those things you mention. I will agree that there are many who are self-righteous. This is the same as wickedness. It has been my experience that most Atheists come across as self-righteous and judgmental of others. It is also true that many Christians are the same. This does not imply that the name and character of Christ is the same thing. To say so is simple prejudice.

The character Jesus set up a system in which you are damned to an eternity of misery unless you bow down and enslave your mind, body and spirit to him.

Quote:Do all African Americans grow up in single parent homes simply because many do? No. You paint with a wide brush and ignore the billions that are out serving others every day.

Who was first to show up on the scene in Joplin after the tornadoes? Christians. Who is still there cleaning up today? You guessed it.

Who are the ones singing the praises of a deity who either directly caused or, through neglect, allowed so much devastation to happen in the first place? 158 people died in that tornado, and most of them were certainly Christians. Praise the Lord.

You don't believe in God. You cannot reference Him as evidence. I stand on the evidence. This is what the Spirit produces:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
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#37
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm)StrongWaters Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 11:08 pm)Ryantology Wrote: The character Jesus set up a system in which you are damned to an eternity of misery unless you bow down and enslave your mind, body and spirit to him.


Who are the ones singing the praises of a deity who either directly caused or, through neglect, allowed so much devastation to happen in the first place? 158 people died in that tornado, and most of them were certainly Christians. Praise the Lord.

I stand on the evidence. This is what the Spirit produces:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...-imagined/
Go ahead explain how 74% of the U.S prison population is christian then.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#38
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: You don't believe in God. You cannot reference Him as evidence. I stand on the evidence. This is what the Spirit produces:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

That's not evidence though. Bible verses? That's the claim, until you can demonstrate that the bible should be taken as an authoritative text.
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#39
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
(December 11, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(December 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: I stand on the evidence. This is what the Spirit produces:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...-imagined/
Go ahead explain how 74% of the U.S prison population is christian then.

*Awaiting No True Scotsman Fallacy*
Dying to live, living to die.
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#40
RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
Quote:I stand on the evidence.

[Image: emb.-poop-shoe.jpg]

Pictured: StrongWaters preparing to stand on the evidence.
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