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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 11, 2013 at 11:28 pm
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(December 11, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyath...-imagined/
Go ahead explain how 74% of the U.S prison population is christian then.
*Awaiting No True Christian Fallacy*
There I fixed that
(December 11, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: You don't believe in God. You cannot reference Him as evidence. I stand on the evidence. This is what the Spirit produces:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
That's not evidence though. Bible verses? That's the claim, until you can demonstrate that the bible should be taken as an authoritative text.
Oh come esquilax, don't be so hard on him. After all his gods action are apparently overruled by Paul the PR guy
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 11, 2013 at 11:37 pm
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(December 11, 2013 at 11:28 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Beccs Wrote: *Awaiting No True Christian Fallacy*
There I fixed that
(December 11, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Esquilax Wrote: That's not evidence though. Bible verses? That's the claim, until you can demonstrate that the bible should be taken as an authoritative text.
Oh come esquilax, don't be so hard on him. After all his gods action are apparently overruled by Paul the PR guy
Who is God? Who is the Son of God? Who is the Lord of the OT?
Luke 3
the son of Enoch,
the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel,
the son of Kenan, 38 the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.
The Son of God is Adam. Jesus is the Last Adam (1 Corinthians 15). The Lord is the Son of God in Genesis 2 that made the garden and restricted the fruit.
Who are you in relation to the Son of God?
1 Corinthians 10
16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
The Cup is the womb of the mother that we pass to the next generation. The bread is (DNA) Christ, the body. We, who are many, are ONE loaf. You blast the Son of God in the OT not realizing it is YOU!
Think again who God is in relation to the Son he raises. What are his promises to the ones who deny He is their Father?
Again, the character of Christ is not the psychopath. God's children are listed in this verse:
Romans 12
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 11, 2013 at 11:46 pm
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(December 11, 2013 at 11:37 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 11:28 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There I fixed that
Oh come esquilax, don't be so hard on him. After all his gods action are apparently overruled by Paul the PR guy
Who is God? Who is the Son of God? Who is the Lord of the OT?
Luke 3
the son of Enoch,
the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel,
the son of Kenan, 38 the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.
The Son of God is Adam. Jesus is the Last Adam (1 Corinthians 15). The Lord is the Son of God in Genesis 2 that made the garden and restricted the fruit.
Who are you in relation to the Son of God?
1 Corinthians 10
16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
The Cup is the womb of the mother that we pass to the next generation. The bread is (DNA) Christ, the body. We, who are many, are ONE loaf. You blast the Son of God in the OT not realizing it is YOU!
Think again who God is in relation to the Son he raises. What are his promises to the ones who deny He is their Father? No the first human was born when barrieya used a spear to create a vagina in Eingana. Eingana swallowed the blackfellows with in herself and went into a watering hole. She then came creaiming in agony with everything inside her until barrieya created a vagina with a spear and birthed everything.
Infact even now she holds a sinew of all of us and if she drops it we die.
DO I have make it anymore clear that it does matter worth shit what paul wrote when he have GOD'S ACTIONS in the OT in supposedly INSPIRED books.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 12:00 am
(December 11, 2013 at 11:46 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 11:37 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Who is God? Who is the Son of God? Who is the Lord of the OT?
Luke 3
the son of Enoch,
the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel,
the son of Kenan, 38 the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God.
The Son of God is Adam. Jesus is the Last Adam (1 Corinthians 15). The Lord is the Son of God in Genesis 2 that made the garden and restricted the fruit.
Who are you in relation to the Son of God?
1 Corinthians 10
16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
The Cup is the womb of the mother that we pass to the next generation. The bread is (DNA) Christ, the body. We, who are many, are ONE loaf. You blast the Son of God in the OT not realizing it is YOU!
Think again who God is in relation to the Son he raises. What are his promises to the ones who deny He is their Father? No the first human was born when barrieya used a spear to create a vagina in Eingana. Eingana swallowed the blackfellows with in herself and went into a watering hole. She then came creaiming in agony with everything inside her until barrieya created a vagina with a spear and birthed everything.
Infact even now she holds a sinew of all of us and if she drops it we die.
DO I have make it anymore clear that it does matter worth shit what paul wrote when he have GOD'S ACTIONS in the OT in supposedly INSPIRED books.
As the tyranny develops in America, consider the cure.
Isaiah 10
10 Woe to those who make unjust laws,
to those who issue oppressive decrees,
2 to deprive the poor of their rights
and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
making widows their prey
and robbing the fatherless.
3 What will you do on the day of reckoning,
when disaster comes from afar?
To whom will you run for help?
Where will you leave your riches?
4 Nothing will remain but to cringe among the captives
or fall among the slain.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
Who is the God of the OT concerned with?
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 12:02 am
Strongwaters, do you... do you seriously not understand that just quoting bible verses isn't going to get you anywhere until you show us why we should take the bible seriously?
Would you take me seriously if I started spouting verses from the Koran at you?
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 12:05 am
(December 12, 2013 at 12:00 am)StrongWaters Wrote: (December 11, 2013 at 11:46 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: No the first human was born when barrieya used a spear to create a vagina in Eingana. Eingana swallowed the blackfellows with in herself and went into a watering hole. She then came creaiming in agony with everything inside her until barrieya created a vagina with a spear and birthed everything.
Infact even now she holds a sinew of all of us and if she drops it we die.
DO I have make it anymore clear that it does matter worth shit what paul wrote when he have GOD'S ACTIONS in the OT in supposedly INSPIRED books.
As the tyranny develops in America, consider the cure.
Isaiah 10
10 Woe to those who make unjust laws,
to those who issue oppressive decrees,
2 to deprive the poor of their rights
and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
making widows their prey
and robbing the fatherless.
3 What will you do on the day of reckoning,
when disaster comes from afar?
To whom will you run for help?
Where will you leave your riches?
4 Nothing will remain but to cringe among the captives
or fall among the slain.
Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away,
his hand is still upraised.
Who is the God of the OT concerned with?
Humans
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 12:20 am
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(December 12, 2013 at 12:02 am)Esquilax Wrote: Strongwaters, do you... do you seriously not understand that just quoting bible verses isn't going to get you anywhere until you show us why we should take the bible seriously?
Would you take me seriously if I started spouting verses from the Koran at you?
Would I take it seriously if you quoted the Quran?
Only if it became obvious that each verse was true, mirrored through all of reality by law, letter, word and quantum mechanics. Yes. If it demonstrated this, I would. It lacks the love of it's messenger. They deny his Gospel, but claim the name.
We are discussing the evidence of God / Christians being psychopaths. The evidence shows otherwise. The words of God are relevant. Someone accuses God of killing, it needs to be shown that in all cases, it was the state of being brought about by the people themselves. God managed the outcome only. In all cases, he dictated what law required by reaping and sowing, then informed them of the outcome of their choices. Law if invariable and so is God. Physics demonstrates the reflection of this. God mirrors himself in every corner of our reality. What we sow we reap. If we wish to have clean well water, we must manage the pollution entering the well. What does God have to do with the well other than providing the water and the Earth as the cleansing cycle?
You are blaming God for protecting his creation and the ones he loves. I show you the verses where this is true. All verses, no matter where you look, will demonstrate this. Baptism is the immersion of the Beast (Animal nature of man) into the Aleph (Strong) Mem (Waters). The flood is where we are now. I can show you from science, from the letters, from the words, from the scriptures of other cultures and from physics. It's a mirror and it is translational symmetry. Rotate it, translate it or abuse it, but it is always invariant and the same. The proof is in the image. God does not change. It's the very reason you have life.
To deny it is a demonstration of the behavior described in the OP. To embrace it is "love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."
What law is broken if a person chooses these traits? Who is the God demonstrating by giving us more life again and again. You must be born again. The flood is our immersion from a long-suffering God.
The psychopath spits in God's face. There is no way around this, yet we are ALL sinners. God's amazing grace is the mercy he shows us. We are rotten. Have you looked around lately? God is love and love keeps no records of wrongs for those who choose the same.
1 John 4
8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
1 Corinthians 13
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 12:28 am
StrongWaters Wrote:Only if it became obvious that each verse was true, mirrored through all of reality by law, letter, word and quantum mechanics. Yes. If it demonstrated this, I would. It lacks the love of it's messenger. They deny his Gospel, but claim the name. Funny that is exactly what the Muslims say, and they offer the same proof you do as well.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 1:18 am
(December 12, 2013 at 12:20 am)StrongWaters Wrote: Would I take it seriously if you quoted the Quran?
Only if it became obvious that each verse was true, mirrored through all of reality by law, letter, word and quantum mechanics. Yes. If it demonstrated this, I would.
Now, for the million dollar question: do you know the difference between a demonstration, and an assertion?
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RE: Do we have psychopaths in out mist?
December 12, 2013 at 1:49 am
(December 12, 2013 at 1:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: (December 12, 2013 at 12:20 am)StrongWaters Wrote: Would I take it seriously if you quoted the Quran?
Only if it became obvious that each verse was true, mirrored through all of reality by law, letter, word and quantum mechanics. Yes. If it demonstrated this, I would.
Now, for the million dollar question: do you know the difference between a demonstration, and an assertion?
The spelling, apparently.
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