RE: Is multiculturalism a bad thing for Europe?
December 24, 2013 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2013 at 1:10 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
Quote:You seem to suggest otherwise
Well, I really didn't ask you who your people were. I merely made a guess, though your username is rather misleading.
Quote:So you beleive in nonsene
Are you drunk or something? A few posts back you were using punctuation and proper spelling.
Quote:So its just meaningless then
To me, it means everything.
Quote:I think that the majority of your genetics are not altaic .
You do that a lot, as it seems, "think". But you don't seem to think too straight most of the time. I know my lineage, and it tells me what I need to hear. What you think is really irrelevant.
Quote:Everyone is descended from the tribes of their ancestors
Thanks for the confirmation of my statement.
Quote:So it isn't genetic then -purely cultural. not 'blood' at all
It is about blood, as we do not accept outsiders. No one can come up and say "I'm a Turk" and then suddenly become a Turk. You must come from a family of Turks, which implies that you have to have the blood of the Turks within your veins, for at least three generations.
Three generations are required in order to swipe clean the impure change in ethnic consciousness.
Quote:Anyne have any idea what this means?
It means, that I, and my ancestors have had the same ethnic consciousness for millenia.
We were not at one point Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, or a mix of these. Our consciousness remained the same throughout the generations since we have entered the pages of history.
Quote:Ill marry who I chose. I don;t give a fig about 'blood'
But you really said that it was bydlo to marry amongst your own, did you not? You truly are conflicting in your words.
Quote:Wrong...again. England as a nation dates back to the unification of teh subkingdoms under Edgar.circa 900 AD
The Byzantines didn't lose Constantinople until the end of the 15th century
You think that our history begins with the conquest of Constantinople? You're misinformed. Your history begins with the Norman invasion. Until then, you were very much like the danes, until you met another wave of latinized northmen who gave you your present identity.
Not to mention that you cannot even understand the Anglo-Saxon tongue, while we have a strong and rich oral and written tradition, nearly all our dialects were recognized and categorized by
Mahmud Al Kashgari in the 11th century along with our tribes, in Dīwānu l-Luġat al-Turk(Compendium of the languages of the Turks) whereas the English nation was still at infancy.
So do not think that you are our equals.
Quote:Er no. You arrived some 400 years later and managed to take the Balkans. the Poles knocked the shit out of you at Vienna and put an end to your machinations
Well, you obviously forgot about the waves of Kuns, Bolgars, Apars, Khazars, Kypchaks and others that have ventured to the west from the north of the Caspian sea. The Turks of Turkey have ventured from the east, facing the Muslim dynasties and the Roman territories in Anatolia, while the others have done their part by invading from the north.
Quote:It is rather since genetics suggest that most converted to islam and are your ancestors
Well, if they were, I'd say that we should have been converted to Christianity instead. How come?
Obviously we were more numerous, and we came in waves of migrations.
Having trouble standing their ground, most of them have moved to urban areas, and in the 20th century, most have been already sent off somewhere. The Greeks during the population exchange, and the Armenians during the exile.
There are still some remaining though in Istanbul, mostly. They are still Christian.
Not to mention that it wasn't just the Oghuz who came to Anatolia. Large numbers of Kypchaks/Kumans(my patrilineal tribe), Qaratatars, and many other tribes came and settled here, and many more during the Mongol Invasion.
The problem with you people is that you first call us like, "converted christians" and then tell us that we're barbarous foreign invaders and that we don't belong in Europe. Your two faced attitude is staggering.
Quote:Better off giving the Kurds their own country too lot less trouble all round.
Better off to send them to the UK. Oh I wish.