(December 27, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Katelis Wrote:(December 27, 2013 at 3:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The koran is a pile of shit just like the bible and all other "holy" books.
I basically agree with you. I just wonder what Muhammad or the author meant with the "grow out of the earth like a plant/growth" if he isn't referring to evolution. And I think it's strange that the Quran doesn't contradict evolution explicitly like the Bible does.
First of all, the translation seems to depend on the translator.
http://web.quran360.com/site/compare/tr/59/ch/71/v/17
Quote:English: Wahiduddin Khan
how God has produced you from the earth and caused you to grow,
(71:17)
English: Yusuf Ali
"'And Allah has produced you from the earth growing (gradually),
English: Mohammed Marmaduke William Pickthall
And Allah hath caused you to grow as a growth from the earth,
(71:17)
English: Muhammad Asad
"'And God has caused you to grow out of the earth in [gradual] growth; and thereafter He will return you to it [in death]:
(71:17)
English: Muhammad Sarwar
and the sun as a torch.
(71:17)
English: Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Muhammad Muhsin Khan
And Allah has brought you forth from the (dust of) earth. [Tafsir At-Tabari, Vol. 29, Page 97].
This crap is a Rohrschact test. People look at it and see exactly what they want to see. Religion is the ultimate self-delusion.