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Citizen Sade
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RE: Citizen Sade
(January 1, 2014 at 12:03 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:
(December 31, 2013 at 11:43 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Really? What did he do that was heroic?
Became a revolutionary & opposed the Reign of Terror.

And that's it?

Did he storm the Bastille?

Lead his troops in battle?

Anything like that?
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RE: Citizen Sade
(December 31, 2013 at 9:51 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:
(December 31, 2013 at 9:47 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: After reading some of De sades "work" I got the impression that he was rather a sad little man.

I found nothing admirable about him at all.
Than it is you who is the sad little man. Read Dialog Between a Priest and a Dying Man

(December 31, 2013 at 9:48 pm)Sejanus Wrote: How do you know that they wanted it?
Isn't it obvious that they consented just so that they could extort money?

No, it is obvious that he was demented, twisted, and sick.

See how that works? You make an unsupported statement, I respond in kind.

(January 1, 2014 at 12:03 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:
(December 31, 2013 at 11:43 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Really? What did he do that was heroic?
Became a revolutionary & opposed the Reign of Terror.

Of course he opposed the Reign of Terror - he was a fucking Marquis!

You are an idiot.
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RE: Citizen Sade
(December 31, 2013 at 9:51 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: Isn't it obvious that they consented just so that they could extort money?

No.
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RE: Citizen Sade
(January 1, 2014 at 12:44 am)Chas Wrote: Of course he opposed the Reign of Terror - he was a fucking Marquis!

To be strictly accurate, de Sade often attempted to ingratiate himself with the Revolution, with mixed results.

Quote:Due to the damage done to his estate in Lacoste, which was sacked in 1789 by an angry mob, he moved to Paris. In 1790, he was elected to the National Convention, where he represented the far left. He was a member of the Piques section, notorious for its radical views. He wrote several political pamphlets, in which he called for the implementation of direct vote. However, there is much to suggest that he suffered abuse from his fellow revolutionaries due to his aristocratic background. Matters were not helped by his son's May 1792 desertion from the military, where he had been serving as a second lieutenant and the aide-de-camp to an important colonel, the Marquis de Toulengeon. De Sade was forced to disavow his son's desertion in order to save his neck. Later that year, his name was added – whether by error or willful malice – to the list of émigrés of the Bouches-du-Rhône department.[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade

Interestingly enough, he was never "radical" enough for the ideologues of The Terror.

Very similar to the fate of the Trotskyites. Communists through and through, but murdered nonetheless because they were associated with the wrong man.
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