Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[KichigaiNeko]

Why do vegetarians have to be so overbearing and obnoxious?

Honestly, they're as bad as fucking Christians.

I think that should read.....
"Some vegetarians and Some xtians"

Otherwise I would agree with the sentiment of
"What is it with some people? If I don't think like they do I'm wrong or bad or immoral"

[là bạn điên]

You believe batshit crazy nonsense its called christianity. Do silkworms suffer? I don't know for sure but I'll err on the safe side. No doubt you will claim I didn't answer this one either.

So you don't like the idea of killing insects.



So how do you justify harvesting vegetables and killing plants then?

Wow. if I had a penny for every omni who came up with that one and thought they were being original and clever I'd have about 27 pence.

Plants/Vegetables have no brain and cannot feel pain and no carrots do not scream when you pick them.

[Aractus]

Actually Kichi from experience it's not the vegetarians that are so overbearing as much as the vegans. I know a vegetarian - hasn't eaten meat since he was like 10 or 11 or something (he's 50) - says he doesn't eat meat because he "has a conscious", his car has leather seats (because he loves leather like most people), he readily cooks chicken for his kids, and he doesn't seem to bother people about their choice to eat meat.

I remember the last time we had this discussion somebody posted a video of mulesing claiming it was cruel beyond belief - I'd never seen it before but it didn't look that bad, I mean it's not as if they're breaking bones or causing long-lasting pain to the animals. The idea that animals mustn't be allowed to experience any pain or discomfort is IMHO pretty darn silly. For the most part they get to have happy pain and stress free lives, free from predators and disease.

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Actually Kichi from experience it's not the vegetarians that are so overbearing as much as the vegans. I know a vegetarian - hasn't eaten meat since he was like 10 or 11 or something (he's 50) - says he doesn't eat meat because he "has a conscious", his car has leather seats (because he loves leather like most people), he readily cooks chicken for his kids, and he doesn't seem to bother people about their choice to eat meat.

I remember the last time we had this discussion somebody posted a video of mulesing claiming it was cruel beyond belief - I'd never seen it before but it didn't look that bad, I mean it's not as if they're breaking bones or causing long-lasting pain to the animals. The idea that animals mustn't be allowed to experience any pain or discomfort is IMHO pretty darn silly. For the most part they get to have happy pain and stress free lives, free from predators and disease.

Everything you have an opinion is 'darned silly' right from your infantile beleif in God which leads you to beleive inflicting pain is just fine so long as its for your selfish benefit.

[Aractus]

Wow. if I had a penny for every omni who came up with that one and thought they were being original and clever I'd have about 27 pence.

Plants/Vegetables have no brain and cannot feel pain and no carrots do not scream when you pick them.

What's an omni?

I didn't think I was being clever or original, I was just pointing out how stupid your argument is - that boiling unconscious insects is cruel.

Nature is so much more beautiful isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UkDMrG6tog

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Everything you have an opinion is 'darned silly' right from your infantile beleif in God which leads you to beleive inflicting pain is just fine so long as its for your selfish benefit.

You're an obvious troll.

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If I am an 'obvious troll' then why are you addressing me. Obviously you are too ignorant to realise that 'troll' is not someone you disagree with. Like most Christians you are also a liar. Please post exactly where I said that boiling unconscious insects was cruel? You know very well I said no such thing so you are inventing a strawman. Like most liars you ask questions, get answers then claim that the person hasn;t answered them then make up your answer that fits your narrative.

Pity your 10 commandments doesn't include 'Thou shalt not lie'

Omni is short for omnivore.

[Bad Wolf]

Troll

[Aractus]

If I am an 'obvious troll' then why are you addressing me.

I'm not the only one who thinks you're an obv. troll.

Like most Christians you are also a liar. Please post exactly where I said that boiling unconscious insects was cruel? You know very well I said no such thing so you are inventing a strawman.

I'm inventing a strawman? What do you call this:

• Everything you have an opinion is 'darned silly' right from your infantile beleif in God which leads you to beleive inflicting pain is just fine so long as its for your selfish benefit.

Here you clearly infer that insects feel pain and scream when they are boiled unconscious - since that's what you were replying to:

• Plants/Vegetables have no brain and cannot feel pain and no carrots do not scream when you pick them.

Pity your 10 commandments doesn't include 'Thou shalt not lie'

Yes it does actually, stop calling me a liar.

Omni is short for omnivore.

Right.... so you're a different species to me and a herbivore then?

[KichigaiNeko]

Actually Kichi from experience it's not the vegetarians that are so overbearing as much as the vegans. I know a vegetarian - hasn't eaten meat since he was like 10 or 11 or something (he's 50) - says he doesn't eat meat because he "has a conscious", his car has leather seats (because he loves leather like most people), he readily cooks chicken for his kids, and he doesn't seem to bother people about their choice to eat meat.

I remember the last time we had this discussion somebody posted a video of mulesing claiming it was cruel beyond belief - I'd never seen it before but it didn't look that bad, I mean it's not as if they're breaking bones or causing long-lasting pain to the animals. The idea that animals mustn't be allowed to experience any pain or discomfort is IMHO pretty darn silly. For the most part they get to have happy pain and stress free lives, free from predators and disease.

Hence the Some Danniel. On the whole I understand that most people will live their lifestyles as they choose not wishing to inflict it on any one nor passing moral judgement on anyone else. Many religious are of this ilk .... thankfully.

It is unfortunate that there are those so eager to pass judgement and vilify others for choices that harm none.

Was just wondering if these so called animal activists/ welfare lobbyists have truly thought through their desires to have "all animals running freely" .... It could be posited that these "activists/ people of vocal conscience" are nothing more than environmental terrorists hell bent of destroying the land.

Consider the free deer, goats, dogs, cats, pigs, cows, horses, buffalo, camels, foxes, birds, rabbits.... None of them native to Australia all of them destructive disease carrying death for our native animals and our flora. But hey, Bambi gets to destroy our land so some fool can claim moral superiority

[Aractus]

Don't forget dingoes, they're not native to Australia either.

Also, back on the topic of silkworms - if we boil them alive we're killing them (by the time they emerge from their cocoons) an average 2-3 days short of their "natural" lives anyway, and we're saving them the frantic and stressful mating stage of life, and also keeping them away from predators who want to eat them before this time anyway, that equates to a much better quality of life, even if they did indeed feel pain (which of course they don't) while completely dormant and undergoing metamorphosis it'd still be a better life.