Who is there to blame?

[Get me Rex Kramer!]

People don't want to subscribe to evolution because they think it's intellectually poisonous, not because they reject actual science: they don't know the actual science.

This above pretty much captures my take on the matter. People aren't stupid, per se, they're ignorant, and remain so because - for one reason or another - they are deeply invested in the "truth" that they have come to know and understand.

Here's something a pretty smart guy had to say along similar lines:

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Utterly agreed with Mr Sagan!

[Vegamo]

Who is there to blame on the concept of gods and religion?

For the people who actually pay attention to me, my quote that i came up with is "it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world." and i have been thinking of who to blame.

We could go back in time to our ancestors (or cave man idiots) who thought... "huh... I have no explanation for this shit, lets make something up that will make us ignorantly feel better!"

Or we could say, in an over generalization, that its humanity itself that is just stupid enough to come up with such a dishonest answer to something and actually believe your own lie.

And then there's Obama, where change only occurred down my stairs..... if you know what i mean. (yes that was a penis joke).

What do ya'll think?

This is funny because as I was reading it I had a flash in my head that answered it: People are lazy.

We have the science to debunk everything that IS RELIGION. Yet, we are outnumbered

[xr34p3rx]

Who is there to blame on the concept of gods and religion?

For the people who actually pay attention to me, my quote that i came up with is "it isn't in our nature to think of a God, it is in our nature to seek answers and the concept of God is most influenced in this world." and i have been thinking of who to blame.

We could go back in time to our ancestors (or cave man idiots) who thought... "huh... I have no explanation for this shit, lets make something up that will make us ignorantly feel better!"

Or we could say, in an over generalization, that its humanity itself that is just stupid enough to come up with such a dishonest answer to something and actually believe your own lie.

And then there's Obama, where change only occurred down my stairs..... if you know what i mean. (yes that was a penis joke).

What do ya'll think?

This is funny because as I was reading it I had a flash in my head that answered it: People are lazy.

We have the science to debunk everything that IS RELIGION. Yet, we are outnumbered

people living in the ark ages yes... v.v

[Lek]

I read all your claims that the majority of people who've lived in recorded history are stupid, i.e.Galileo, Da Vinci, Einstein and thousands of scientists and scholars, who made discoveries which form the foundation of today's scientific principles. I'm glad that we have you "enlightened" atheists around to chastize us intellectual inferiors. Thanks.

[xr34p3rx]

I read all your claims that the majority of people who've lived in recorded history are stupid, i.e.Galileo, Da Vinci, Einstein and thousands of scientists and scholars, who made discoveries which form the foundation of today's scientific principles. I'm glad that we have you "enlightened" atheists around to chastize us intellectual inferiors. Thanks.

are you sincere? or sarcastic... i take it as, "oh yea, thanks for the complement, ever since i left religion i have found myself to be a very logical person". But if you are being sarcastic, i will try to hold back on my thoughts ^^

EDIT: Oh ok i see what youre saying. and no, you took what i said and made an over generalization about the past. im talking about waaaay back before any of this was even in consideration. like the birth of religion is the time period im mostly referring to.

EDIT AGAIN: And over time as these discoveries are made with STRONG evidence that they are most true, religious people are ignorant and decide to stay in the dark ages where the earth was thought to be flat. aka believing in Zeus where we have a great understanding of how lightning is created and not by some dude throwing lightning bolts down on earth floating on a cloud...

[MitchBenn]

When people got smart enough to ask the big and - at the time - unanswerable questions (where does the sun go? What happens when you die? WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT?) they came up with plausible-sounding answers. They made stuff up which felt good.

The trouble is, the teachers and custodians of these "answers" began to realise how much power this gave them over other people, so after a while the "answers" weren't just proposed solutions to imponderable problems, they became RULES and TENETS which had to be accepted and obeyed unquestioningly, on pain of divine wrath.

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I read all your claims that the majority of people who've lived in recorded history are stupid, i.e.Galileo, Da Vinci, Einstein and thousands of scientists and scholars, who made discoveries which form the foundation of today's scientific principles. I'm glad that we have you "enlightened" atheists around to chastize us intellectual inferiors. Thanks.

You're welcome

[Lek]

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EDIT: Oh ok i see what youre saying. and no, you took what i said and made an over generalization about the past. im talking about waaaay back before any of this was even in consideration. like the birth of religion is the time period im mostly referring to.

EDIT AGAIN: And over time as these discoveries are made with STRONG evidence that they are most true, religious people are ignorant and decide to stay in the dark ages where the earth was thought to be flat. aka believing in Zeus where we have a great understanding of how lightning is created and not by some dude throwing lightning bolts down on earth floating on a cloud...

I made no over generalization about the past. I meant that most of the great scientific discoveries of the past, including the last few centuries, were made by theists. Most of them were in the western world which was predominately christian.

[xr34p3rx]

[quote='Lek' pid='583959' dateline='1389839776']
EDIT: Oh ok i see what youre saying. and no, you took what i said and made an over generalization about the past. im talking about waaaay back before any of this was even in consideration. like the birth of religion is the time period im mostly referring to.

EDIT AGAIN: And over time as these discoveries are made with STRONG evidence that they are most true, religious people are ignorant and decide to stay in the dark ages where the earth was thought to be flat. aka believing in Zeus where we have a great understanding of how lightning is created and not by some dude throwing lightning bolts down on earth floating on a cloud...

I made no over generalization about the past. I meant that most of the great scientific discoveries of the past, including the last few centuries, were made by theists. Most of them were in the western world which was predominately christian.

such as...?

[Lek]

I made no over generalization about the past. I meant that most of the great scientific discoveries of the past, including the last few centuries, were made by theists. Most of them were in the western world which was predominately christian.

such as...?

Gravity, shape of the earth, the planets revolve around the sun, the theory of relativity.

[xr34p3rx]

such as...?

Gravity, shape of the earth, the planets revolve around the sun, the theory of relativity.

and just to verify, who are the people that discovered this? and how does this relate to a god in any way?