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Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:06 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(January 20, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Chas Wrote: I'm sure I can imagine as I have plenty of experience, too.

I am using evidence and critical thinking. I didn't actually need to Google it.

And I suggest you stick your insults up your ass.

I do not need to present evidence to a habit that only needs willpower to be vanquished. What a mockery to the human kind that some idiots want to pretend that they have an Illness to recover from a habit they got into in the first place. Grow some guts for once in your life. AA and bullshit of the like just are there to make a mint out of the weak willed fools not savvy enough to fight their own fights.

You are clearly completely ignorant about addiction.
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:07 pm (This post was last modified: January 20, 2014 at 3:08 pm by LastPoet.)
(January 20, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Chas Wrote: You are clearly completely ignorant about addiction.

ROFLOL

Translation, "I'm a wimp, and I want my wimpness recognized". Again, Et tu Brute?
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:10 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 3:07 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(January 20, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Chas Wrote: You are clearly completely ignorant about addiction.

ROFLOL

Translation, "I'm a wimp, and I want my wimpness recognized". Again, Et tu Brute?

You really are ignorant.
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#34
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:10 pm



I'm not sure the bickering of you all is helping the OP any.
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:11 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 3:10 pm)rasetsu Wrote:


I'm not sure the bickering of you all is helping the OP any.



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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:16 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 8:45 am)Chas Wrote:
(January 19, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: AA substitutes one obsession for another.

I can't say if the substitute is more or less ultimatly damaging than the other.

Nice blanket statement. Like most such, it is incorrect.

While that may be true for some, it is not true for all.

What's your problem with AA? You clearly have an opinion, I just wonder if it is an informed opinion. Thinking

It puts out "god" as some sort of a panacea. That's enough.
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm (This post was last modified: January 20, 2014 at 3:19 pm by Chas.)
(January 20, 2014 at 3:10 pm)rasetsu Wrote:


I'm not sure the bickering of you all is helping the OP any.



I offered a useful answer to the OP, that a 12-step program can be successfully used by an atheist, since the 'higher power' thing was off-putting.

The bickering is because that ignoramus is making uninformed statements without providing any evidence.
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 12:52 am)Polaris Wrote:
(January 19, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: AA substitutes one obsession for another.

I can't say if the substitute is more or less ultimatly damaging than the other.

Less. Sorry, but I had to be the one to state the obvious this time around.

You are entitled to your (incorrect) opinion.
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:21 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(January 20, 2014 at 12:52 am)Polaris Wrote: Less. Sorry, but I had to be the one to state the obvious this time around.

You are entitled to your (incorrect) opinion.

Yeah, because going to some meetings is waaaaaay more dangerous than drunk driving or cirrhosis of the liver. Rolleyes
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and the like
January 20, 2014 at 3:22 pm
(January 20, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Chas Wrote: I can only respond to what you actually post, not what you might have posted. That's how it works.

Or you can drop the self-righteous asshole routine and just not respond.
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