Hell does NOT exist in the bible?

[1tasolo]

[Angrboda]

Much of the lore surrounding hell as a place of fiery torment had its origins in literature that is outside the Protestant and Catholic canons and is properly pseudoepigraphia and other literature. (Though there may be some in Maccabees, which is included in Catholic bibles.)

It isn't talked about more because most Christians don't know shit about their own religion and really don't care.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Frankly, I don't see that it much matters. If the majority (or even a significant minority) of Christians believe that Hell is a place of fire, brimstone and everlasting torment where you get jabbed in the nads by pitchfork-wielding imps, then that IS a Christian tenet.

Religion consists of what believers believe and not much else.

Boru

[Drich]

I've repeatedly brought this up, in that Hell fire is not fire. To be consumed by hell fire simply describes the emotion/reaction evoked by a being engulfed by fire. It does not compare, as the panic, dread and out right fear one experiences in hell fire can not compare to fire, it is just the closest thing we have to compare.

I have also said many times the bible only says that satan and his followers/demons will be the ones who are hell's eternal residents. To experience such utter panic pain and fear over a period of time the thin line of sanity that keeps us from becoming a mass of raw unchecked negative emotions would disappear. All that we were would have been consumed by hell fire.

Whether our spiritual essence would remain after our consciousness was consumed really does not matter at that point, does it?

[Minimalist]

In your case it doesn't matter now.

[Angrboda]

I've repeatedly brought this up, in that Hell fire is not fire. To be consumed by hell fire simply describes the emotion/reaction evoked by a being engulfed by fire. It does not compare, as the panic, dread and out right fear one experiences in hell fire can not compare to fire, it is just the closest thing we have to compare.

So you're claiming to have physically been in "hell" such that you know from experience or someone else's experience what it is like. Not a dream, not "inferred from other things," not the product of an epileptic fit, you're claiming you've actually verifiably been to hell, is that correct?

[KUSA]

I've repeatedly brought this up, in that Hell fire is not fire. To be consumed by hell fire simply describes the emotion/reaction evoked by a being engulfed by fire. It does not compare, as the panic, dread and out right fear one experiences in hell fire can not compare to fire, it is just the closest thing we have to compare.

I have also said many times the bible only says that satan and his followers/demons will be the ones who are hell's eternal residents. To experience such utter panic pain and fear over a period of time the thin line of sanity that keeps us from becoming a mass of raw unchecked negative emotions would disappear. All that we were would have been consumed by hell fire.

Whether our spiritual essence would remain after our consciousness was consumed really does not matter at that point, does it?

Do you have points of reference in the bible that confirm what you are saying?

[Drich]

So you're claiming to have physically been in "hell" such that you know from experience or someone else's experience what it is like. Not a dream, not "inferred from other things," not the product of an epileptic fit, you're claiming you've actually verifiably been to hell, is that correct?

Are you saying it is possible to physically goto hell? If no, then how does one retain physical/verifiable evidence?

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I've repeatedly brought this up, in that Hell fire is not fire. To be consumed by hell fire simply describes the emotion/reaction evoked by a being engulfed by fire. It does not compare, as the panic, dread and out right fear one experiences in hell fire can not compare to fire, it is just the closest thing we have to compare.

I have also said many times the bible only says that satan and his followers/demons will be the ones who are hell's eternal residents. To experience such utter panic pain and fear over a period of time the thin line of sanity that keeps us from becoming a mass of raw unchecked negative emotions would disappear. All that we were would have been consumed by hell fire.

Whether our spiritual essence would remain after our consciousness was consumed really does not matter at that point, does it?

Do you have points of reference in the bible that confirm what you are saying?

I have book chapter and verse that say hell was created to punish satan. That he will be imprisioned there and OT the ruler of hell. That hell is a pit or a void of creation, that for us it is our second death. That we will be consumed by the 'fire of hell.' That our experience there will be as if we were cast into fire. The experience of hell fire was my own.

[Esquilax]

Are you saying it is possible to physically goto hell? If no, then how does one retain physical/verifiable evidence?

Your disbelief demands we ask: how can you possibly be making declarative statements about what hell is like if you're so quizzical about ever going there?

[Drich]

Are you saying it is possible to physically goto hell? If no, then how does one retain physical/verifiable evidence?

Your disbelief demands we ask: how can you possibly be making declarative statements about what hell is like if you're so quizzical about ever going there?

Just because I would have you ask does this somehow prevent me from asking you questions as well?

My asking you questions is not designed to shut down the conversation, but to get you to think a little differently about what is being discussed.

Rasetsu wanted physical evidence.. But how is that possible if hell is not a physical place?

The idea here is to move beyond the limits she has placed on this conversation to perhaps take in the bigger picture. In that this universe is far greater and more diverse than what we can physically account for. So why limit what one can understand by what can physically be observed?

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That he will be imprisioned there and OT the ruler of hell.

This should read satan is Not the ruler of Hell.. (But a prisoner there.)