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RE: Cementing a Legacy of Failure
February 11, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Meh, you knew this would happen. The whole "debate" over the debt ceiling is just so much posturing.
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RE: Cementing a Legacy of Failure
February 11, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Maybe they actually learned a lesson from their approval lessons plummeting whenever they create one of their fiscal crisises.
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RE: Cementing a Legacy of Failure
February 11, 2014 at 3:49 pm
(February 11, 2014 at 3:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Um, the reason it is happening is because that collection of dickheads that make the up tea-party caucus will not let him pursue any other course.
That's some of the posturing I am talking about. They know that they have to raise the debt ceiling (which itself strikes me as a ridiculous idea that no longer serves the purpose of making congress appear to be "fiscally responsible") because there are only so many times that you can "shut down the government" (snicker). They won't admit defeat, of course, they will just threaten to remove Boehner (oh,
that will change everything!) and claim to stand on principle, or whatever crap allows them to pretend to save face.
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RE: Cementing a Legacy of Failure
February 11, 2014 at 3:52 pm
I don't think the tea baggers know that at all. They merely lack the votes to pass an alternative which is as irresponsible as they want.
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RE: Cementing a Legacy of Failure
February 11, 2014 at 3:58 pm
(February 11, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They merely lack the votes to pass an alternative which is as irresponsible as they want.
Heh, that just lets them play the victim, which at least provides some comedy relief. Remember, keeping them in the public eye has the benefit of reminding people what can happen if they ever get enough of a majority to do
real damage. Although in a nation that is ~80% theist, that could go spectacularly wrong...
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