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Slavery (on Thursdays)
#11
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
I swear every time I see this thread I think for a quarter of a millisecond that someone is suggesting "Slavery Thursdays."
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#12
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I swear every time I see this thread I think for a quarter of a millisecond that someone is suggesting "Slavery Thursdays."
Me, too.
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#13
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
Seriously. Slavery. But just on Thursdays.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#14
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
"New to PBS...Slavery Thursdays! With a star studded line up, including: Django Unchained, 12 Years A Slave and Amistad. Special guests will include the Grand High Wizard of the KKK in Alabama. Be there or be cast in irons!"
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#15
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 26, 2014 at 5:45 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Wow Huggy, you are suuuuuuuuuuper crazy.

This is my exactly point. some people are content with being slaves. The ancient Hebrews had a tradition called Jubilee, which took place about every 50 years, in which anyone that was a slave could go free if they wished. If they wanted to remain a slave, then a hole was bored into their ear marking them as a slave for the rest of their life.

This also has spiritual significance. The hole bored into the ear represents those that refused to hear truth.

John 8:32
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free
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#16
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 26, 2014 at 6:54 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: =
This is my exactly point. some people are content with being slaves. The ancient Hebrews had a tradition called Jubilee, which took place about every 50 years, in which anyone that was a slave could go free if they wished. If they wanted to remain a slave, then a hole was bored into their ear marking them as a slave for the rest of their life.

This also has spiritual significance. The hole bored into the ear represents those that refused to hear truth.

John 8:32
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free
You do know that the bible supports slavery, right?
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#17
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 26, 2014 at 6:57 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: You do know that the bible supports slavery, right?

I guess it supports slavery, if by "support" you mean the one story about God sending Moses Into Egypt to free 2 million slaves. and having to feed and provide water for them for 40 years.
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#18
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I guess it supports slavery, if by "support" you mean the one story about God sending Moses Into Egypt to free 2 million slaves. and having to feed and provide water for them for 40 years.
Actually, I was talking about verses like this:
Quote:When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
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Quote: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
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#19
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 26, 2014 at 7:42 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Actually, I was talking about verses like this:
Quote:When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
So you have issue with someone being told not to kill their slave? you do realize you are quoting old testament law right? Christians do not observe the old covenant, thats what Jesus came to abolish.
Quote:and
Quote: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

As for the first second one, its pretty good advice. You see there were a couple of famous slaves in the bible one was Joseph(whose life parallels the life of Jesus perfectly), because he was a faithful and righteous slave he became ruler of all Egypt. And the other is Daniel, a man brought into Babylon as a slave.

Genesis
38 And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is?
39 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:
40 Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.
41 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, See, I have set thee over all the land of Egypt.



Daniel
46 Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.
47 The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
48 Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
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#20
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
The Old Testament is still the Bible and the Bible is still the word of God, isn't it? And actually, the way I read that verse, it says it's okay to beat a slave with a rod as long as it doesn't die in one or two days.
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