The redneck strike again.

[Cyberman]

His mind is an example of what happens to a human being when they are not taught critical thinking skills. He will never change his mind, so there is no point in trying.

Your brain:

Your brain on religion:



Ricky's brain 24/7:

[Confused Ape]

Ricky's brain 24/7:

Isn't that Father Dougal?

[Cyberman]

It is indeed. Seen there, of course, with Radovan Karadžić as Father Ted:

[Confused Ape]

It is indeed. Seen there, of course, with Radovan Karadžić as Father Ted:

A lot of people commented on the resemblance between him and Dermot Morgan.

[Little Rik]

Ape, you are wasting your time. Ricky knows he is right because he thinks he is right. Every piece of evidence that appears to support his ideas are paraded around for us to see, while every piece of evidence that contradicts his ideas are completely ignored and glossed over. His mind is an example of what happens to a human being when they are not taught critical thinking skills. He will never change his mind, so there is no point in trying.

(Portion Emboldened by Riketto to Bring Attention - Removed LARGE FONT)


You mean that when i asked you to explain the meaning of philosophy
you ignored and when i asked you the difference between religion and spirituality you also ignore but i have to give you a 10 plus for answer
my question about the fact that man can or can not salivate at the sight of raw meat.
You gave a perfect answer typical of someone totally out of control mentally speaking.

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Bla, bla, bla....................MISQUOTE. THIS WAS NOT PRODUCED BY STIMBO.

Stimbo, stimbo, what you do to me.
After you got so cranky with me last time i thought i lost a very good mate
for ever but now that you are back i am happy again.
Don't do it again please, you know how important your presence is to me.

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That was in the Appendix - Other Thoughts. What you conveniently overlooked was -

The following information is taken from The New York Times, May 15, 1979. According to Dr. Alan Walker, a Johns Hopkins University anthropologist, Homo Erectus, the species immediately ancestorial to our own Homo Sapiens, had evidence of an omnivorous diet. Every Homo-Erectus tooth found was that of an omnivore. However, a small sample of teeth from the human-like species during a 12 million year period leading up to the Homo-Erectus period, indicates the earlier species may have been a fruit eater. Even if this species, way before our own, lived on a fruit diet, they probably would not have consumed what we consider typical fruits. Hundreds of plants produce fruits that are tougher, more substantial foods than what we eat today.

I already went through this in previous posts.
Canine teeth in humans were there not to deal with meat but to scare enemies.
Hippo has got canine bigger than a lion and yet is a veg 100%.

You've obviously forgotten those articles I mentioned in Post #593 of this topic so I'll repost everything here.

When i agree with most of what is written i don't see the need to come back on the issue.

Wild animals that range freely and eat what nature intended, says Dewailly, have fat that is far more healthful. Less of their fat is saturated, and more of it is in the monounsaturated form (like olive oil). What’s more, cold-water fishes and sea mammals are particularly rich in polyunsaturated fats called n-3 fatty acids or omega-3 fatty acids. These fats appear to benefit the heart and vascular system. But the polyunsaturated fats in most Americans’ diets are the omega-6 fatty acids supplied by vegetable oils. By contrast, whale blubber consists of 70 percent monounsaturated fat and close to 30 percent omega-3s, says Dewailly.

Didn't i agree on the fact that wild animals are more healthy than farm one?
In fact i am the one who said that first.

Inuit health deteriorated when they adopted Western style diets which included meat from farm animals fed on agricultural grains.

True but that does not mean that before that they were in good nick
anyway.
Time ago i read that their life span was much less than the average
worldwide.

I went to the Ananda Margo site and found this article about the Anando Margo Diet.

So what you make out?

Hunter gatherers who ate meat from wild animals managed to colonise most of the planet and humans living this lifestyle are still to be found in places like Papua New Guinea. Humans who settled down to animal husbandry evolved lactase tolerance but this mutation hasn't spread to every human on the planet.

In PNG there are many people who have been connibals until few years ago so i wouldn't take these guys as a good example.
In fact most of the people who rely heavy on meat are the less developed
mentally speaking.

The typical Western diet including meat from animals fed on unnatural foodstuffs has only been around since the 20th century. Humans are now dropping like flies from it because we aren't designed to cope with all the junk in junk foods.

Good.
Less denialists and less idiots around.

[Rampant.A.I.]

http://youarenotsosmart.com

[Confused Ape]

my question about the fact that man can or can not salivate at the sight of raw meat.

It depends on what culture people are raised in.

Inuit Nutrition

Traditional Inuit diets derive approximately 50% of their calories from fat, 30-35% from protein and 15-20% of their calories from carbohydrates, largely in the form of glycogen from the raw meat they consumed.[10] This high fat content provides valuable energy and prevents protein poisoning, which historically was sometimes a problem in late winter when game animals grew lean through winter starvation. Because the fats of the Inuit's wild-caught game are largely monounsaturated and rich in omega-3 fatty acids, the diet does not pose the same health risks as a typical Western high-fat diet.[11]

Vitamins and minerals which are typically derived from plant sources are nonetheless present in most Inuit diets. Vitamins A and D are present in the oils and livers of cold-water fishes and mammals. Vitamin C is obtained through sources such as caribou liver, kelp, whale skin, and seal brain; because these foods are typically eaten raw or frozen, the vitamin C they contain, which would be destroyed by cooking, is instead preserved.[12]

Sashimi

Sashimi (Japanese: 刺身, pronounced [saɕimiꜜ]; /səˈʃiːmiː/) is a Japanese delicacy consisting of very fresh raw meat or fish sliced into thin pieces.

Sashimi Varieties

Some sashimi ingredients, such as octopus, are sometimes served cooked given its chewy nature. Most seafood, such as tuna, salmon, and squid, are served raw.

Less common, but not unusual, sashimi ingredients are vegetarian items such as yuba (bean curd skin) and raw red meats, such as beef, known as gyuunotataki, and horse, known as basashi. Chicken "sashimi", known as toriwasa, is considered by some[who?] to be a delicacy; the Nagoya kōchin, French poulet de Bresse and its American derivative, the blue foot chicken, are favored by many for this purpose, as, besides their taste, they are certified to be free of Salmonella[citation needed]. Chicken sashimi is sometimes slightly braised on the outside[citation needed].

Basashi (馬刺し = 馬 ba = horse + 刺し sashi = pierced, stuck), or namasu, is raw horse meat, a traditional dish from Kumamoto, Matsumoto, and Tohoku region. It is often served sashimi-style, and can be found in restaurants in Osaka, Tokyo and other large cities in Japan.

The Nenets Of Siberia rely on reindeer -

Reindeer meat is also the most important part of the Nenets’ diet. It is eaten raw, frozen or boiled, together with the blood of a freshly slaughtered reindeer, which is rich in vitamins.

Termites are eaten in Kenya.

Termites are prepared in various ways for eating. In Enzaro village, Maragoli, it is popular to lightly fry the termites in their own fat over a low heat, add a little salt and sometimes remove the wings. Fried winged termites are tasty after being dried in the sun and they can be consumed for a rather long period of time. In some areas, termites are used as gifts for marriage. Raw termites are also frequently eaten.

A few minutes googling reveals that other insects are eaten raw in various parts of the world. U.N. Urges Eating Insects; 8 Popular Bugs to Try

A report released Monday by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization reminds us that there are more than 1,900 edible insect species on Earth, hundreds of which are already part of the diet in many countries.

In fact, some two billion people eat a wide variety of insects regularly, both cooked and raw; only in Western countries does the practice retain an "ick" factor among the masses.

Eating raw meat does have it's drawbacks because of the risk of parasite infection but carnivorous animals in the wild have this problem as well.

Survey of Gastrointestinal Parasite Infection in African Lion (Panthera leo), African Wild Dog (Lycaon pictus) and Spotted Hyaena (Crocuta crocuta) in the Luangwa Valley, Zambia

Little is known about gastrointestinal parasite infections in large carnivores in Africa and what is available is largely from East Africa. We collected faecal samples from nine spotted hyaenas (Crocuta crocuta), 15 lions (Panthera leo) and 13 African wild dog (Lycaon pictus) from Luangwa Valley, Zambia. The most common gastrointestinal parasites found were Isospora spp., Spirometra sp., Taeniidae and Sarcosystis spp. Twenty-eight per cent of all samples were co-infected with Spirometra sp. and Taeniidae, with co-infection rates highest among lions (67%). Thirty-three per cent (3/9) of spotted hyaenas were infected with Isospora sp. Ninety-two per cent (12/13) of wild dog were infected with Sarcocystis, similar to results from studies in South Africa. One lion was infected with a parasite whose morphology suggested Strongyloides sp., not previously been reported in lions. Samples from one lion and two spotted hyaenas yielded no gastrointestinal parasites. Overall, parasite species were consistent with those found from studies in other regions of Africa and are likely a result of ingesting infected prey. To our knowledge this study provides the most comprehensive survey of gastrointestinal parasite infection in large carnivores from this region of Africa to date and provides baseline data for future studies.

Humans are the only animals who cook their food and the discovery of cooking could have had a direct bearing on our evolution.

Cooked Food Allowed Evolution Of Primates' Big Brains, Scientists Say

Eating a raw food diet is a recipe for disaster if you're trying to boost your species' brainpower. That's because humans would have to spend more than 9 hours a day eating to get enough energy from unprocessed raw food alone to support our large brains, according to a new study that calculates the energetic costs of growing a bigger brain or body in primates. But our ancestors managed to get enough energy to grow brains that have three times as many neurons as those in apes such as gorillas, chimpanzees, and orangutans. How did they do it? They got cooking, according to a study published online today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

One answer came in the late 1990s when Harvard University primatologist Richard Wrangham proposed that the brain began to expand rapidly 1.6 million to 1.8 million years ago in our ancestor, Homo erectus, because this early human learned how to roast meat and tuberous root vegetables over a fire. Cooking, Wrangham argued, effectively predigested the food, making it easier and more efficient for our guts to absorb calories more rapidly. Since then, he and his colleagues have shown in lab studies of rodents and pythons that these animals grow up bigger and faster when they eat cooked meat instead of raw meat—and that it takes less energy to digest cooked meat than raw meat.

What people like to cook still depends on culture, though. I wouldn't have fancied a roast tarantula back in the days when I used to eat meat.

[Losty]

I see this thread is still going. It doesn't seem to be about beef and omnivores anymore. I came in around page 45 and scrolled though a couple pages. I must've come in at a bad spot. Either that, or I have somehow forgotten how to read English. It could be both I guess. I have no freaking clue what is going on anymore. I was hoping someone could translate this for me: "As i was saying in the last few days to keep yourself alive 3 factors must have some parallelism.
Body- mind and the I must keep connected to each other.
What happen when the I reach the ultimate goal with the enlightenment it can not keep connected with bodies and mind that are not 100%
perfect so the parallelism is lost and the I can not longer stick with non perfect medium.
In some cases that does not happen but is rarer."

[Confused Ape]

It doesn't seem to be about beef and omnivores anymore.

From the opening post -

Man was never build up to be omnivore as we can see from the different body (teeth, jaw, length of stomach and different acids to digest food) so by going against nature it is clear that damages will occur.

The topic now includes meat in general because humans never have, and still don't, eat only bovines. Humans, as a species, eat plants, nuts, fruit, insects and meat which is the same diet as chimpanzees. Humans also eat fish and so do Bonobos and Orangutans.

After a lot of research I discovered the following -

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1: Meat from wild animals has different kinds of fats to meat from farm animals fed on unnatural diets. Humans evolved to eat wild animals.

2: Somewhere in the dim and distant past, our pre-human ancestors learned how to use fire and discovered cooking. Cooking reduces the amount of energy required to eat and digest food so we had more energy for other things such as growing large brains.

3: Cooking meat destroys Vitamin C. Humans living in areas where there's little vegetation learned it was healthier to eat some meat raw.

4: Vitamin B12 is essential. As the natural sources are animal products, vegans and vegetarians need to take B12 supplements made from the bacteria which produce the B12 found in animal products.

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[Losty]

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It doesn't seem to be about beef and omnivores anymore.

From the opening post -

Man was never build up to be omnivore as we can see from the different body (teeth, jaw, length of stomach and different acids to digest food) so by going against nature it is clear that damages will occur.

The topic now includes meat in general because humans never have, and still don't, eat only bovines. Humans, as a species, eat plants, nuts, fruit, insects and meat which is the same diet as chimpanzees. Humans also eat fish and so do Bonobos and Orangutans.

After a lot of research I discovered the following -

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1: Meat from wild animals has different kinds of fats to meat from farm animals fed on unnatural diets. Humans evolved to eat wild animals.

2: Somewhere in the dim and distant past, our pre-human ancestors learned how to use fire and discovered cooking. Cooking reduces the amount of energy required to eat and digest food so we had more energy for other things such as growing large brains.

3: Cooking meat destroys Vitamin C. Humans living in areas where there's little vegetation learned it was healthier to eat some meat raw.

4: Vitamin B12 is essential. As the natural sources are animal products, vegans and vegetarians need to take B12 supplements made from the bacteria which produce the B12 found in animal products.

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You didn't translate the quote
I want to know what the heck that means