Ok I admit it

[DarkHorse]

But unfortunately, adherents are cunts.

When I told my mom I doubted what to believe about God she told me "Just remember that Jesus loves you".

Copout.

[LostLocke]

When I told my mom I doubted what to believe about God she told me "Just remember that Jesus loves you".

Al Capone loved his family and the children in his neighborhood.
He was still a psychopath.

[JesusLover1]

When I told my mom I doubted what to believe about God she told me "Just remember that Jesus loves you".

Al Capone loved his family and the children in his neighborhood.
He was still a psychopath.

But Jesus lived a perfect life and died for our sins.

[LostLocke]

Lots of people die for their cause.

[JesusLover1]

Lots of people die for their cause.

But he died to save our souls. If you had been the only person to ever live, he would have died just to save you.

[Mr. Moncrieff]

I'm an agnostic weak atheist.

I don't believe in a higher being as I maintain that the concept of such a higher being is fundamentally, logically and morally at odd with proven scientific fact and the laws of existence.

However, I also maintain that when anyone who supposes they can prove the existence of God approaches me, I am call bullshitting - largely due to my fundamental principles that God is unknowable and beyond any concept that we could imbue.

In other words, I don't believe in God, nor do I believe the existence of God could ever be fundamentally proven.

[Tonus]

But he died to save our souls.

That's pretty weak, for an almighty god.

[Mr. Moncrieff]

Lots of people die for their cause.

But he died to save our souls. If you had been the only person to ever live, he would have died just to save you.

Could you ever envisage dying for your child to prove to yourself that your child is worth saving because you are tempted to kill your child?

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Unless, of course, God committed suicide to save the human race from his murderous inclinations?

[JesusLover1]

But he died to save our souls. If you had been the only person to ever live, he would have died just to save you.

Could you ever envisage dying for your child to prove to yourself that your child is worth saving because you are tempted to kill your child?

Well man CHOOSE to allow sin into the world when he ate from the tree, it was man's will, and God cannot allow imperfect souls to heaven because he said sinners must be punished and he cannot go back on his word. It's the only way he could do it without contradicting his word. He gives man the choice of heaven or hell, but died for us to show us his love.

[LostLocke]

But he died to save our souls.

That's pretty weak, for an almighty god.

Tell me about it.
There are other deities out there that wouldn't have to sacrifice themselves to themselves to save humankind.