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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What are your guys' opinion on William Lane Craig? He seemed some quite profound arguments that didn't just sway away from the evidence, but tackled genuine logical arguments.
WLC's arguments fail for the same reason all logical arguments for the existence of god fail, they are all fallacious.
Do you really think there are any new arguments? There aren't. And Craig's aren't anything new, or valid.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (March 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What are your guys' opinion on William Lane Craig? He seemed some quite profound arguments that didn't just sway away from the evidence, but tackled genuine logical arguments.
WLC's arguments fail for the same reason all logical arguments for the existence of god fail, they are all fallacious.
Do you really think there are any new arguments? There aren't. And Craig's aren't anything new, or valid.
Why do so many people respect him and his work?
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What are your guys' opinion on William Lane Craig? He seemed some quite profound arguments that didn't just sway away from the evidence, but tackled genuine logical arguments.
WLC is like Ronald McDonald: A clown who's famous but has nothing real to say.
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:33 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: (March 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: WLC's arguments fail for the same reason all logical arguments for the existence of god fail, they are all fallacious.
Do you really think there are any new arguments? There aren't. And Craig's aren't anything new, or valid.
Why do so many people respect him and his work?
Because people love confirmation bias.
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:35 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Beccs Wrote: (March 5, 2014 at 2:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What are your guys' opinion on William Lane Craig? He seemed some quite profound arguments that didn't just sway away from the evidence, but tackled genuine logical arguments.
WLC is like Ronald McDonald: A clown who's famous but has nothing real to say.
DR. William Lane Craig.
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:38 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 3:35 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: (March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Beccs Wrote: WLC is like Ronald McDonald: A clown who's famous but has nothing real to say.
DR. William Lane Craig.
I'll acknowledge salutations when I'm talking to the person directly and if they want to be called by their salutation, or if I meet them on a professional basis.
It's the same reason I don't demand people call me DR. RJA when I'm talking to them in a non-professional basis.
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:38 pm
Wasn't it Craig that argued that we should feel bad for the soldiers who put children to the sword during the OT genocides, and not for the children themselves, because they were guaranteed to go to heaven?
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:41 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 3:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Wasn't it Craig that argued that we should feel bad for the soldiers who put children to the sword during the OT genocides, and not for the children themselves, because they were guaranteed to go to heaven?
I'm pretty sure you're right.
What does that say about his mindset?
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 3:43 pm
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(March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: (March 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: WLC's arguments fail for the same reason all logical arguments for the existence of god fail, they are all fallacious.
Do you really think there are any new arguments? There aren't. And Craig's aren't anything new, or valid.
Why do so many people respect him and his work?
Because he's very good at sounding profound. What's the old phrase? 'On the surface, he's profound, but deep down, he's really superficial'.
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RE: Ok I admit it
March 5, 2014 at 4:09 pm
(March 5, 2014 at 3:31 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Why do so many people respect him and his work?
Because, as others have said, people want profound sounding arguments that confirm their existing beliefs.
But seriously, philosopher David Hume refuted the cosmological argument well over 200 years ago.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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