Dota 2

[Aractus]

Orchid Malevolence is like a poor-man's Scythe of Vyse - and with Hex you can use it with LW to cause the hero to come out of hex and into a silence-disarm, whereas OM only silences the hero so they can still run away or attack. Yes it gives silencer intel, attack damage and attack speed all of which are good things for him, but the boost to your strength you get from SoV is missing, and don't underestimate having an extra +10 strength (+190 hit points). LW prevents any hero from combining their skills - pudge can't hook-dismember, tiny can't toss-avalanche, etc.

I had a game as bloodseeker not long ago against a silencer with curse in the bottom lane - he kept my mana to 0 - but I didn't bother about mana I just countered the damage with tangos. At level 6 I went back to base and healed (with thirst's bonus speed from some other hero), TP'd back and killed him. Had he known how to play Silencer he should have easily been able to kill BS with LW + Glaives before I had a chance to inflict enough damage to kill him. All that time he spent keeping my mana at 0 was useless. In order to get Curse early you either have to sacrifice levelling Last Word or Glaives of Wisdom. And Curse is next to useless later game. Yes it has some use early game, but the limited benefit it brings is at the cost of either your LW or Glaives or just plain stats bonus all of which are better for Silencer (the +8 stats bonus also gives you 152 hit points). Not to mention lvl4 Curse takes 135 mana to cast, which is the same amount of mana required for 9x attacks with Glaives. I really can't think of a more useless skill in the game than Curse. At leavel6 your damage (average) should be about 76 and Glaives lvl2 gives a +34 bonus, so 9x Glaives equals 990 damage dealt. That's a much better use of mana than to do 65 - 390 damage and have no control over how much damage you actually do (except of course when combined with LW which is then using 250 mana).

I disagree that Silencer requires his intelligence steal - what he requires is damage and disable. Stolen intel adds to your damage, but it's not what makes or breaks Silencer.

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Scythe is a 3.5s hex, and the natural LW pop happens at 4s. Orchid lasts 5s, and gives you the bonus damage at the end. Orchid is much better if you need to burst someone down (again-have you ever tried to gank a weaver? There are situations where you'll want the orchid)
If you were just shrugging off the damage from full-length Curse spam, why would the damage from LW spam have killed you? (look at the damage they do!) If there was another person in lane, was the silencer hitting them with the Curse AOE? How much was it doing there?

[Aractus]

Yes silencer was hitting both with the Curse AOE and it was doing nothing except drain mana because of tangos (and casting of course). And to be clear, Curse does over twice the damage as mana drain. But it's not guaranteed damage - Glaives and LW are guaranteed damage (you can guarantee glaives 100% with truestrike), curse does damage only up until the hero casts a spell. Late game a properly farmed Silencer should be able to kill any hero - especially Weaver - while hexed without help from other heroes or damage from LW. 3.5 seconds is well enough time to kill weaver with Glaives. In any case if you cast LW then hex then the hero comes out of hex into a silence-disarm.

[Aractus]

I hate meepo, never pick him. Haven't played him since dota1 - so I got him by random today and got a beyond godlike steak 14-3 (90% of that is right-click)... damn he's way too easy and way too over-powered!

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So how 'bout that all random death match and 1v1 mid stuff that just came out?

how to ARDM