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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 6, 2014 at 8:48 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 12:21 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: ...look I consider myself a christian, but believe religion to be evil, and can still realize this story has nothing to do with religion...
- Says the guy who for the last two days has been doing verbal gymnastics over the true context and implications of the word 'slaves' in the Bible.
It seems abundantly clear that faith runs a distant second to religion in your life.
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 6, 2014 at 9:15 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 8:48 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 12:21 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: ...look I consider myself a christian, but believe religion to be evil, and can still realize this story has nothing to do with religion...
- Says the guy who for the last two days has been doing verbal gymnastics over the true context and implications of the word 'slaves' in the Bible.
except that in the King James version of the Bible the word "slave" appears only once in Jeremiah and "slaves" appears once in Revelation. please explain their true context.
Quote:It seems abundantly clear that faith runs a distant second to religion in your life.
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 6, 2014 at 9:23 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 11:52 am)Esquilax Wrote: Quote:Would you allow a doctor to inject you with a magical substance that will remove all pain for the rest of your life?
If that sounds too good to be true, it’s in part because the doctor, John Michael Lonergan, 67, is a convicted felon – a former federal prison inmate who was convicted on eight felony counts (involving tax evasion, mail fraud, and healthcare fraud) in Ohio.
Three hundred dollars for a little Christ in your bloodstream.
Is it just me, or do all the really credulous people seem to be religious? Any True Believers wish to step in to defend the good doctor, or are we all going to go with the usual fallacies?
I mean, you'd have to be really, really whacked to let someone with that kind of background shove stuff into your veins.
If ANYONE, especially a doctor offered me a treatment that would cure me of something permanently, whatever the ailment is, I would question his credibility and his credentials.
Doubly so if he called it the "Christ Shot", the "Allah SHot" or something similar.
And especially if he was going to try to charge me $300 bloody dollars for it.
On the other hand, if people are gullible enough to fall for this conman I have no sympathy for them.
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 6, 2014 at 11:43 pm
(March 6, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: except that in the King James version of the Bible the word "slave" appears only once in Jeremiah and "slaves" appears once in Revelation. please explain their true context.
Because if they don't use the word, they can't be describing the practice.
That's why "ethnic cleansing" leaves everyone nice and clean, and isn't a pogrom at all! Do you not get how utterly ridiculous this argument is, Huggy?
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 7, 2014 at 1:28 am
(March 6, 2014 at 11:43 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: except that in the King James version of the Bible the word "slave" appears only once in Jeremiah and "slaves" appears once in Revelation. please explain their true context.
Because if they don't use the word, they can't be describing the practice.
That's why "ethnic cleansing" leaves everyone nice and clean, and isn't a pogrom at all! Do you not get how utterly ridiculous this argument is, Huggy?
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(March 6, 2014 at 8:48 pm)Cinjin Wrote: - Says the guy who for the last two days has been doing verbal gymnastics over the true context and implications of the word 'slaves' in the Bible.
other than the two places I already mentioned the words slave and slaves is not the KJV Bible. So explain how I can take a word that doesn't exist out of context?
Jeremiah 2:14 KJV
Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?
If the words servant/slave are same, then why the distinction in this verse? wouldn't it be totally redundant?
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 7, 2014 at 1:36 am
Plenty of other bibles use the word "slave," in those exact locations. Other than that you don't want to deal with it, you've given no reason why we should favor your translation over those.
And this frustrating sophistry of yours... it needs to stop. Seriously.
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 7, 2014 at 2:00 am
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2014 at 2:22 am by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(March 6, 2014 at 11:52 am)Esquilax Wrote: Quote:Would you allow a doctor to inject you with a magical substance that will remove all pain for the rest of your life?
If that sounds too good to be true, it’s in part because the doctor, John Michael Lonergan, 67, is a convicted felon – a former federal prison inmate who was convicted on eight felony counts (involving tax evasion, mail fraud, and healthcare fraud) in Ohio.
Three hundred dollars for a little Christ in your bloodstream.
Is it just me, or do all the really credulous people seem to be religious? Any True Believers wish to step in to defend the good doctor, or are we all going to go with the usual fallacies?
I mean, you'd have to be really, really whacked to let someone with that kind of background shove stuff into your veins.
People are desperate for help so they do stupid things. The bigger the lie the more believable it is.
(March 6, 2014 at 12:41 pm)truthBtold Wrote: (March 6, 2014 at 12:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Once again, not able to provide any substance, are you able to refute what I said? I guess the answer would be no, because you would have if you could.
here I'll make it simple for you
your quote:
can you find the word "Christ" mentioned anywhere in the story, yes or no?
Its like the bible... dont read into it or was it dont .... umum.. its there. . U have to have faith.... can u find the name jesus in the O.T. ?
That's a bad question since there are at least 25 passages in the OT that discuss characters named "Jesus". The 1599 Geneva Bible even calls him "Jesus Christ" in Psalm 89:1, 109:1, 117.1, and Song of Solomon 1:1 and 8:1. http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?ver...spanend=73
The Protestant Bible purged his name from the OT and used other names.
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 7, 2014 at 2:19 am
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2014 at 2:21 am by Kayenneh.)
Jacob, are you sure you haven't seen Huggy skulking around your workplace lately? He seems to have a thing with putting feet in his mouth..
And somehow (however stupid and dangerous it is) I can understand desperate people wanting to get rid of their pain, but when vain shitheads start injecting themselves with oil and other neat substances.. That's just beyond stupid.
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RE: The Jesus Shot
March 7, 2014 at 2:28 am
(March 7, 2014 at 2:19 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Jacob, are you sure you haven't seen Huggy skulking around your workplace lately? He seems to have a thing with putting feet in his mouth..
And somehow (however stupid and dangerous it is) I can understand desperate people wanting to get rid of their pain, but when vain shitheads start injecting themselves with oil and other neat substances.. That's just beyond stupid.
Do you remember all of those butt injections that went bad because some clown was injecting regular silicone sealant into women's behinds? People want a quick fix for their problems. That's why they do obviously stupid things. Even people who know better, like us, might one day do something just as stupid. It's basic human nature and no one is immune.
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