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Media Bias for Islam
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RE: Media Bias for Islam
(March 18, 2014 at 12:10 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 12:05 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Nothing is so threatening to any religion than an ex-member.

Something weird about what you said. The vast majority of Muslims I encounter claim that I could never be a Muslim if I left the religion. They will strong profess that anybody who is a true Muslim loves Islam because it is a religion of peace and the truth. The irony though is that the very same people who say this will say otherwise amongst other Muslims. Such a two faced group if you ask me.
Also I am even worse than an apostate. I am a Wathani(pre-Islamic pagan) who professes that not only is Islam not even peaceful but it is a pagan reformation. I honestly believe that the theology that came before Islam is far better. Islam is to Arab paganism what Windows Vista is to XP

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#12
RE: Media Bias for Islam
(March 18, 2014 at 12:10 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Something weird about what you said. The vast majority of Muslims I encounter claim that I could never be a Muslim if I left the religion.
Christians say the exact same thing about ex-Christians. You have to love the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. "No true Muslim/Christian would ever leave Islam/Christianity so therefore you were never really a Muslim/Christian in the first place."

They have to do this. It's one thing to never be persuaded to join a religion. They can dismiss me because I've never really felt that "Holy Spirit" so I can't understand. Or they can say I'm too proud to serve God. Or they can say I'm having too much fun living a life of sin and rebellion. There are many ways to reject a skeptic who never believed. None of these work on someone like you because you were a believer at one point. They have to deny you were a believer because the only alternative is to try to understand why you turned away from the promise of Heaven and how you came to conclude it's all nonsense. On some level, they have to know where that path leads.

Quote:Islam ... is a pagan reformation.
Same thing for Christianity. The Jews had no concept of Hell and the idea of an intercessor like the Christian idea of Jesus is blasphemous to the god of the Old Testament. These things came from pagan sources.

Religion is like any other part of culture in that it absorbs traditions from neighbors or anything else it's exposed to. Evangelical faiths like Christianity or Islam that seek to acquire followers from all over the world will absorb the traditions of others. It makes their conversion easier.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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#13
RE: Media Bias for Islam
(March 18, 2014 at 12:39 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Same thing for Christianity. The Jews had no concept of Hell and the idea of an intercessor like the Christian idea of Jesus is blasphemous to the god of the Old Testament. These things came from pagan sources.

Religion is like any other part of culture in that it absorbs traditions from neighbors or anything else it's exposed to. Evangelical faiths like Christianity or Islam that seek to acquire followers from all over the world will absorb the traditions of others. It makes their conversion easier.

Take for examples al-Ayah l-Shatayniyah(The Satanic Verse). These verses are deemed mutawatir(reliable and accurate) and are danced around by Muslims so much that they have reconstructed false ahadith to avoid it. Muhammad without a doubt used pagan additions to Islam after constructing the entire thing from paganism itself.

If you are like me and understand ahadith and know how to sort through them you will find so many references of paganism. Allahu Akbar is a famous phrase by Muslims for example and it means "God is Greater". The question is, who is Allah greater than?
al-Qur'an is repetitive and makes it very clear that Islam is henotheistic and specifically makes mention that other gods exist but only Allah is to be worshiped. By doing this Muhammad is not saying that the pagan gods are fake but that Allah is better than them. So it is the "my god is better than your god" argument.

Pagans danced naked around the fuckin' Kaaba for crying out loud and this is mentioned in a mutawatir hadith as well. Islam is pagan alright so I would reccommend any Muslims to either be an atheist, deist or role back to pre-Islamic paganism which was surprisingly better.
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RE: Media Bias for Islam
Quote: By doing this Muhammad is not saying that the pagan gods are fake but that Allah is better than them. So it is the "my god is better than your god" argument.

My dick is bigger than yours.
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RE: Media Bias for Islam
(March 18, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Darinda Wrote:
Quote: By doing this Muhammad is not saying that the pagan gods are fake but that Allah is better than them. So it is the "my god is better than your god" argument.

My dick is bigger than yours.

I am an asexual, what on earth would I do with my penis? It is like telling an electrician that you are a better plumber than he is. What the hell would an electrician do with plumbing skills. Same could be said about sex in my case yet alone my penile length
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RE: Media Bias for Islam
(March 18, 2014 at 5:19 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Darinda Wrote: My dick is bigger than yours.

I am an asexual, what on earth would I do with my penis? It is like telling an electrician that you are a better plumber than he is. What the hell would an electrician do with plumbing skills. Same could be said about sex in my case yet alone my penile length

I think Darinda was just talking about was not you but the god-comparison between rival religions. To quote comedian George Carlin, "My god has a bigger dick than your god".
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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#17
RE: Media Bias for Islam
(March 18, 2014 at 6:06 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I think Darinda was just talking about was not you but the god-comparison between rival religions. To quote comedian George Carlin, "My god has a bigger dick than your god".

Well that does explain a lot but Darinda broke Poe's law so I could not tell.
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