Is Hell or Prison the best cure for immorality?

[Phatt Matt s]

Congratulations on your purity and chastity of heart noble servant of Allah. I also would one day like to present myself before the throne of Allah as a pure lily who lusts not in his heart nor uses his his fingers to whip himself into an erotic frenzy. Give thy affection to no creature less than Allah!

[Bucky Ball]

Couple things: one, if we're talking about a just hell, we can't be talking about any of the religious ones, because an eternity of any kind of punishment isn't just, nor can it be a cure for anything- as you allude to in your thread title- because it's clearly not there to get anyone better. It's there as retribution for not staying in line.

Secondly, does a punishment devised by an entity that assumes power for itself without ever having to earn it, who excludes the possibility of ever being recused or losing any of that power no matter its abuses, who requires no consent in order to govern you, and assumes a worldwide jurisdiction independent of any kind of legal checks and balances, sound just to you? If any person did it, you'd consider that an unacceptable dictatorship; why does whatever form of god get a free pass?

I am talking about a hell where people earn their rightful punishment for. A rightful amount of time. Also God has the right to do anything if it is a demiurge so God has earned his sovereignty rightfully so.

Are you serious ?
God "earned" something ? You actually get how totally idiotic that statement is ? Who the fuck set up the system in which "god" MUST earn something ? If what you say is true, Reality is larger than your deity, and she has no control over it, and MUST participate in a system it (supposedly) created ? God has "rights". Who "granted" it, its rights ? If god "earned" her sovereignty, who was top dog BEFORE she got done earning it ?

[Rabb Allah]

Are you serious ?
God "earned" something ? You actually get how totally idiotic that statement is ? Who the fuck set up the system in which "god" MUST earn something ? If what you say is true, Reality is larger than your deity, and she has no control over it, and MUST participate in a system it (supposedly) created ? God has "rights". Who "granted" it, its rights ? If god "earned" her sovereignty, who was top dog BEFORE she got done earning it ?

There is no way in hell you can be serious. I never said that God must earn anything nor did I say god is female and I specifically stated that even perception and subjectivity is a product of god meaning god owns your mind even. I also never implied any such system of god as I reject the circular concept of Christianity and it's assertion that god abides by it's own system or laws.
Are you done trolling?

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Congratulations on your purity and chastity of heart noble servant of Allah. I also would one day like to present myself before the throne of Allah as a pure lily who lusts not in his heart nor uses his his fingers to whip himself into an erotic frenzy. Give thy affection to no creature less than Allah!

The slaves of Allah are always rewarded. He is always merciful and always giving

[Phatt Matt s]

The slaves of Allah are always rewarded. He is always merciful and always giving

Then what becometh of those who come to this thread to persecute the messengers of Allah?

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

Then what becometh of those who come to this thread to persecute the messengers of Allah?

YES. Do tell.

[tor]

Abdulrab told me that my life has no meaning

[Phatt Matt s]

Nobody is infallible. You told me i'm stupid.

I don't give a shit!

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Abdulrab also told me he belonged to the communist party and that burt Reynolds was the sexiest guy a live. You have to recognize he is full of jokes and sarcasm.

[tor]

He has interesting criteria for judging meaningfulness of life though. According to him THE ONLY AND ONLY meaning there can be is to worship god.
Seems like a pretty narrow point of view.

[Phatt Matt s]

I'll have to find out from him. I pointed out errors in the Quran and he acknowledged that they were errors. I also heard him say, but cannot provide the link, that he does not see disbelief in God as something that would merit eternal punishment.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

He has interesting criteria for judging meaningfulness of life though. According to him THE ONLY AND ONLY meaning there can be is to worship god.
Seems like a pretty narrow point of view.

Yep.

Not sure what to say here.

Oh wait, welcome to the universe, where people exist who have pretty narrow points of view.

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I'll have to find out from him. I pointed out errors in the Quran and he acknowledged that they were errors. I also heard him say, but cannot provide the link, that he does not see disbelief in God as something that would merit eternal punishment.

GOOD.