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Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
#21
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
Welcome, Hez!
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#22
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
(March 21, 2014 at 11:41 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:
(March 21, 2014 at 9:50 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: Hey thanks! And I am very serious about questioning my beliefs if I figured this would be the place to do it! Big Grin If the truth doesn't align, then I'm better off for it! I'm on a quest for truth at any cost Smile

And if the cost is your belief in god?

Ps hi from Perth western Oz

Badger

Hey there! And thanks! Yea, I believe an evaluation and change of beliefs would be the unfortunate, but necessary thing to do Smile
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#23
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
Hezekiah when are you gonna apply skepticism to christianity?
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#24
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
(March 22, 2014 at 12:25 pm)tor Wrote: Hezekiah when are you gonna apply skepticism to christianity?

I guess I'm not a hard skeptic, but everytime I engage in conversation I put it up to light of my own beliefs and see how it plays out. But you're right, maybe skepticism isn't the accurate description.
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#25
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
So you are not a skeptic?
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#26
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
(March 22, 2014 at 12:53 pm)tor Wrote: So you are not a skeptic?

If by skeptic you mean someone who recognizes that I don't know and I'm still searching, I consider myself one, yes. But if you mean someone who purely chooses to suspend belief in anything altogether, no not at all.
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#27
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
I mean somebody who does not believe in bullshit.
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#28
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
(March 22, 2014 at 1:00 pm)tor Wrote: I mean somebody who does not believe in bullshit.

Well when you put it that way, no I guess not! Big Grin
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#29
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
Then change the title because there is no such thing as a christian skeptic. If you apply skepticism to christianity you stop being a christian.
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#30
RE: Hezekiah the Christian with Skepticism
(March 22, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: If by skeptic you mean someone who recognizes that I don't know and I'm still searching, I consider myself one, yes. But if you mean someone who purely chooses to suspend belief in anything altogether, no not at all.

A skeptic, in philosophical terms, is someone that requires that their beliefs be supported by demonstrable evidence, and reasoned argument.

Most theists that I've run across are skeptics when is come to claims such as: big foot, UFO abductions, Loch Ness monster, etc. But they wall off a portion of their mind where they put their Christian beliefs, and do not examine them with the same level of skepticism as those other claims.

Welcome aboard!

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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