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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 9, 2014 at 4:45 pm
(April 9, 2014 at 3:40 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Being ahead of the curve doesn't make someone worthy of worship.
Never said it did.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 9, 2014 at 5:06 pm
yes, his teachings are ok.
Paul is a little screwy, but jesus is as good as any other tree hugger.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm
Throughout most of the NT Jesus teaches good morals. There are times (some of which have been mentioned already) where the character seems to be an egotistical maniac with abandonment issues... But it's mostly good stuff like look after the poor and the sick, don't be greedy, don't hoard money when others are in need, share what you have, don't be a hater, don't judge others too harshly... Stuff like that, which would actually help make the world a better place. I find it strangely ironic that the more religious a Christian believes they are, the less they seem to agree with or follow Jesus's teachings.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 9, 2014 at 6:42 pm
(April 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Throughout most of the NT Jesus teaches good morals. There are times (some of which have been mentioned already) where the character seems to be an egotistical maniac with abandonment issues... But it's mostly good stuff like look after the poor and the sick, don't be greedy, don't hoard money when others are in need, share what you have, don't be a hater, don't judge others too harshly... Stuff like that, which would actually help make the world a better place. I find it strangely ironic that the more religious a Christian believes they are, the less they seem to agree with or follow Jesus's teachings.
But we cant forget that we "think" that this is what jesus said and did. But we don't know that. We have anonymous writtings of what he might of done.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 9, 2014 at 8:33 pm
(April 7, 2014 at 9:03 pm)cromwell Wrote: Jesus teachings was a great thing at the time, some of you people have to remember that when these teachings where written down it was a very different time. His teachings basically shaped the western culture. Oh yeah, I forgot though, we are atheists, like the guy above said, babababalaaaa hate that jesus guy blabla bla.
So did the Greeks And Romans and pagans and Arabs. Our numbers are Arabic and Algebra comes from Arabs. Our days of the week and months of the year are all pagan names from polytheism. Our style of government comes from the Greeks and Romans.
Alleged "Jesus", no contemporary evidence during the alleged time. Still wouldn't make magic babies or zombie god's real. And again, the NT has verses that negate the alleged "kinder side" of this claimed character.
I hate all comic books by the way. Any good that humans do is in our evolution, not in a comic book. Saying you can find good in Jesus's word is like saying Darth Vader never did anything bad because he finally saved his son.
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Re: RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 10, 2014 at 12:17 am
(April 9, 2014 at 6:42 pm)truthBtold Wrote: (April 9, 2014 at 6:16 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Throughout most of the NT Jesus teaches good morals. There are times (some of which have been mentioned already) where the character seems to be an egotistical maniac with abandonment issues... But it's mostly good stuff like look after the poor and the sick, don't be greedy, don't hoard money when others are in need, share what you have, don't be a hater, don't judge others too harshly... Stuff like that, which would actually help make the world a better place. I find it strangely ironic that the more religious a Christian believes they are, the less they seem to agree with or follow Jesus's teachings.
But we cant forget that we "think" that this is what jesus said and did. But we don't know that. We have anonymous writtings of what he might of done. I'm talking about what the book says. He's almost certainly a fictional character.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 10, 2014 at 3:10 am
Ezekiel was more effective than Jesus in changing people's outlook. Ezekiel ended the practice of saddling the sons with the sins of their fathers and vice versa. That was radical. Jesus said some mumbo-jumbo things that no one has ever paid any attention to. No one loves his neighbor. No one ever really forgives. And no one will ever give someone else all of his stuff if a person asks for it.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 13, 2014 at 2:11 pm
(April 9, 2014 at 5:06 pm)archangle Wrote: yes, his teachings are ok.
Paul is a little screwy, but jesus is as good as any other tree hugger.
Just like the God this Paul character is written to support, we the reader are expected to ignore his violent past because he said "I am sorry I won't do that again". That is like forgiving a serial killer.
Paul wasn't just a "little screwy". His character reflects that of a psychopath just like the God of the entire book itself.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 13, 2014 at 8:56 pm
If Jesus was real, he was probably illiterate, so he couldn't have read the old testament for himself.
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RE: Was Jesus a great moral teacher?
April 14, 2014 at 7:54 am
(April 13, 2014 at 2:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (April 9, 2014 at 5:06 pm)archangle Wrote: yes, his teachings are ok.
Paul is a little screwy, but jesus is as good as any other tree hugger.
Just like the God this Paul character is written to support, we the reader are expected to ignore his violent past because he said "I am sorry I won't do that again". That is like forgiving a serial killer.
Paul wasn't just a "little screwy". His character reflects that of a psychopath just like the God of the entire book itself.
I agree, I am not a paulian. Pointing out to people that many people follow paul's notions confuses them.
But now we would have to address this "psychopath" god.
Is it "crazy" to use negative reinforcement to help humans not hurt each other? If you asked a crimanl to describe the notion of "why we have police" what would he say? What is is crazy is that we would take that criminals writings as "literal".
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