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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:33 am
(March 27, 2014 at 9:31 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: (March 27, 2014 at 9:29 am)tor Wrote: No. But other animals can divide into branches and die. Or just die.
Well, won't the mutations that took place in chimps to create them take place in chimps again so that they evolve into that more advanced primate?
Why not?
Animals evolve into something new all the time.
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:33 am
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(March 27, 2014 at 9:30 am)tor Wrote: (March 27, 2014 at 9:30 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: So why did these more advanced apes go extinct but Gorillas and Chimps did not?
Actually I think these 2 are on the way there 
You are correct but that has to do with how terribly modern man has fucked up the environment and wouldn't be the case were we a bunch of aboriginals wihtout cars, factories, electricity, and wearing loin cloths and throwing spears.
Well then in a matter of time we should see the return of the chimp men :p
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:35 am
(March 27, 2014 at 9:30 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: So why did these more advanced apes go extinct but Gorillas and Chimps did not? There could be a number of reasons. Possibly a cataclysmic event, like the meteor strike that hastened the end of the dinosaurs (and appears to have changed the climate sufficiently that it would no longer support such enormous land animals). Or disease, or famine, or some other environmental factor that affected their fitness for survival.
Man can be described as an advanced ape, but drop us in the middle of the ocean and we won't last very long. It is estimated that more than 99.8% of the species that have ever existed are now extinct. So that is part of the process, it seems; the life on the planet evolves and changes as the planet itself undergoes change.
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:35 am
(March 27, 2014 at 9:30 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: So why did these more advanced apes go extinct but Gorillas and Chimps did not?
Surviving populations of Gorillas, Chimps and Orangutans live in some of the most inaccessible locations on the planet. This seems to be the only factor that has kept them alive thus far, though as growing human populations encroach on those regions the populations are becoming increasingly threatened with extinction.
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:38 am
(March 27, 2014 at 9:05 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: (March 27, 2014 at 8:52 am)tor Wrote: What is your theory?
Don't play dumb. C'mon guess!
Also, I see evolution happening. Evolution is not a theory. The explanation of what took place over the last 10 million years that resulted in the existance of mankind, is a theory.
A theory in science is an explanation for what happens. A scientific theory is an explanation for what happens that defeats attempts to falsify it and is useful for making predictions and generating new lines of inquiry. People commonly use the word 'theory' to mean 'educated guess'. That's not how it's used in science.
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:40 am
(March 27, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: (March 27, 2014 at 9:30 am)tor Wrote: Actually I think these 2 are on the way there 
You are correct but that has to do with how terribly modern man has fucked up the environment and wouldn't be the case were we a bunch of aboriginals wihtout cars, factories, electricity, and wearing loin cloths and throwing spears.
Well then in a matter of time we should see the return of the chimp men :p
If survival on chimps will depend on cooperation and intelligence and they won't go extinct in few million years yeah that can happen.
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:43 am
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Well, I appreciate all of the intelligent, articulate, and enriching discussion and knowledge.
Without diminishing the well informed and thoughtfull posts from the evolutionists, you have demonstrated that it is theory and that is my entire point.
They were kept alive because of the inaccesible location. Very good! A theory but a good one.
Possibly a cataclysmic event, like the meteor strike that hastened the end of the dinosaurs (and appears to have changed the climate sufficiently that it would no longer support such enormous land animals). Or disease, or famine, or some other environmental factor that affected their fitness for survival.
Yes, that is a well informed and logical conclusion. Yet a theory not a fact and unproven.
It is estimated that more than 99.8% of the species that have ever existed are now extinct. Yes well scientists have fucked up so many times during their estimations that I can't and neither you can be sure of such statistics.
But if I had to make a guess to save my life I'd go with what Science said on it trusting that they are more credible and learned than myself.
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:45 am
Evolution is a fact. Thunder why do you fail so much?
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:46 am
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(March 27, 2014 at 9:45 am)tor Wrote: Evolution is a fact. Thunder why do you fail so much?
I said evolution is a fact in my OP so this very statement of yours is a failure. Ask yourself that question why do ya?
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RE: Why is evolution hiding?
March 27, 2014 at 9:48 am
(March 27, 2014 at 9:43 am)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Well, I appreciate all of the intelligent, articulate, and enriching discussion and knowledge.
Without diminishing the well informed and thoughtfull posts from the evolutionists, you have demonstrated that it is theory and that is my entire point.
They were kept alive because of the inaccesible location. Very good! A theory but a good one.
Possibly a cataclysmic event, like the meteor strike that hastened the end of the dinosaurs (and appears to have changed the climate sufficiently that it would no longer support such enormous land animals). Or disease, or famine, or some other environmental factor that affected their fitness for survival.
Yes, that is a well informed and logical conclusion. Yet a theory not a fact and unproven.
It is estimated that more than 99.8% of the species that have ever existed are now extinct. Yes well scientists have fucked up so many times during their estimations that I can't and neither you can be sure of such statistics.
But if I had to make a guess to save my life I'd go with what Science said on it trusting that they are more credible and learned than myself.
You have abused the word 'theory' so badly that in a just universe you wouldn't be allowed to use it anymore.
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