Opinions on smart drugs - immoral/unfair?

[Sedna]

I have only experience with noopept, and it`s pretty much a double edged sword. Too much will get you foggy, sleepy, could give you insomnia, irritability and short term memory decline.

Ah, I already have problems with some of that. Maybe I shouldn't...

[Coffee Jesus]

I find it more unfair hanging around people with "total recall", they read a text through once and recall 80 % while I read the text through 3 times, make a presentation and explain everything to myself and recall 95 %, but fuck I spent 5 times more time on doing that.

How do you know this? Are you comparing test scores? That might not be so accurate. I just worked it out as a probability problem (below in gray).

Each student knows x of the material.
Abbey knows 1/2.
Brian knows 2/3.
Conny knows 4/5.
What is the probability that they will get a question right if it requires them to know y different things?

x^y = the probability that a student will know every fact necessary
(x^y)/(.8^y) = the fraction of their probability of getting it right over Conny's

Abbey's, Brian's, and Conny's probabilities, and their probabilities as percents of Conny's probability:

y=1 --- .50, .66, .80 --- 62.5, 83.3, 100
y=2 --- .25, .44, .64 --- 39.1, 69.4, 100
y=3 --- .13, .30, .51 --- 24.4, 57.9, 100
y=4 --- .06, .20, .41 --- 15.3, 48.2, 100

Conny's relative probability of getting it right is higher for the more specific questions, but in absolute terms, every student is less likely to get a more specific question right. Having more specific questions mixed in with the less specific questions will create a high-end buffer that makes it increasingly difficult to improve on an already high test score, pushing what would have been a 97 down to a 93, or what would have been a 99 down to a 97.

[salamenfuckyou]

I find it more unfair hanging around people with "total recall", they read a text through once and recall 80 % while I read the text through 3 times, make a presentation and explain everything to myself and recall 95 %, but fuck I spent 5 times more time on doing that.

How do you know this? Are you comparing test scores? That might not be so accurate. I just worked it out as a probability problem (below in gray).

Each student knows x of the material.
Abbey knows 1/2.
Brian knows 2/3.
Conny knows 4/5.
What is the probability that they will get a question right if it requires them to know y different things?

x^y = the probability that a student will know every fact necessary
(x^y)/(.8^y) = the fraction of their probability of getting it right over Conny's

Abbey's, Brian's, and Conny's probabilities, and their probabilities as percents of Conny's probability:

y=1 --- .50, .66, .80 --- 62.5, 83.3, 100
y=2 --- .25, .44, .64 --- 39.1, 69.4, 100
y=3 --- .13, .30, .51 --- 24.4, 57.9, 100
y=4 --- .06, .20, .41 --- 15.3, 48.2, 100

Conny's relative probability of getting it right is higher for the more specific questions, but in absolute terms, every student is less likely to get a more specific question right. Having more specific questions mixed in with the less specific questions will create a high-end buffer that makes it increasingly difficult to improve on an already high test score, pushing what would have been a 97 down to a 93, or what would have been a 99 down to a 97.

wtf?

[Coffee Jesus]

I was in the mood for math.

[Rahul]

I want these. I suck at concentration these days and have the attention span of a toddler.

They are cheap, legal and can be bought online with no receipt. So if you want some I can give you my refferal link for a nice site.

I find it more unfair hanging around people with "total recall", they read a text through once and recall 80 % while I read the text through 3 times, make a presentation and explain everything to myself and recall 95 %, but fuck I spent 5 times more time on doing that.

I dont know what you were trying to point out specifically rasetsu, but I do agree with you on that no drug so far synthesized can replace good old hard work.

I'm good at remembering what I read. I can even remember page numbers that certain information can be found on after reading a book once.

It fades with time though. At least knowing page numbers does.

[salamenfuckyou]

They are cheap, legal and can be bought online with no receipt. So if you want some I can give you my refferal link for a nice site.

I find it more unfair hanging around people with "total recall", they read a text through once and recall 80 % while I read the text through 3 times, make a presentation and explain everything to myself and recall 95 %, but fuck I spent 5 times more time on doing that.

I dont know what you were trying to point out specifically rasetsu, but I do agree with you on that no drug so far synthesized can replace good old hard work.

I'm good at remembering what I read. I can even remember page numbers that certain information can be found on after reading a book once.

It fades with time though. At least knowing page numbers does.

Lucky you.

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They are cheap, legal and can be bought online with no receipt. So if you want some I can give you my refferal link for a nice site.

I find it more unfair hanging around people with "total recall", they read a text through once and recall 80 % while I read the text through 3 times, make a presentation and explain everything to myself and recall 95 %, but fuck I spent 5 times more time on doing that.

I dont know what you were trying to point out specifically rasetsu, but I do agree with you on that no drug so far synthesized can replace good old hard work.

I'm good at remembering what I read. I can even remember page numbers that certain information can be found on after reading a book once.

It fades with time though. At least knowing page numbers does.

I cant remember shit

[NoraBrimstone]

How do you even find out what sites are legit? I might get some so I can actually focus on my Criminology course for more than 5 minutes at a time, but I have literally no idea what sites will sell me real smart drugs, sugar pills, or rat poison. They all look the same to me.

[salamenfuckyou]

How do you even find out what sites are legit? I might get some so I can actually focus on my Criminology course for more than 5 minutes at a time, but I have literally no idea what sites will sell me real smart drugs, sugar pills, or rat poison. They all look the same to me.

read up on reviews for the various sites, buy from ebay - read the reviews on ebay. be critical, be careful. come on man.
if you cant have the pills or the powder you get tested you will never know, but as I mentioned earlier you can find piracetam probably in most drug stores I believe, I think.

[NoraBrimstone]

Reviews on eBay are easily faked, and I don't think piracetam is available OTC in my country, either. I think I'll just leave it for now, or just talk to my GP and see if I can get some prescribed. I'm sure my shitty attention span is abnormal enough to warrant a genuine prescription anyway.

[salamenfuckyou]

Reviews on eBay are easily faked, and I don't think piracetam is available OTC in my country, either. I think I'll just leave it for now, or just talk to my GP and see if I can get some prescribed. I'm sure my shitty attention span is abnormal enough to warrant a genuine prescription anyway.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comme...e_choline/

There are definitely fakes out there, you might as well get baking power if you buy bulk, haha. It may be, as I mentioned earlier piracetam is an ADHD, Alzheimer, brain damage drug so it may quite well be a prescription drug where you live, though I find that ridiculous.