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RE: Science Porn
May 12, 2016 at 6:25 pm
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Pastel pink and blue are the colors of subterfuge, not black. It bothers you that the ships aren't black because you have a fetish, weirdo. 
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RE: Science Porn
May 12, 2016 at 6:30 pm
Studying the differences and commonalities in these various star systems is giving great insight into the formation processes that generate planets.
Not sure how much aperture it would take (enormously more than Kepler has, that's for sure) but a similar mission to study a region of stars in the LMC for planets would be profoundly interesting.
I suppose I could find the 'average' distance to the Kepler patch and inverse square it out to 160,000 light years and get a number. If smaller than HST it would be a feasible mission . . . .
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RE: Science Porn
May 12, 2016 at 6:35 pm
Seriously, this is science porn to me:
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 1:51 am
So 21. In that little tiny sliver of sky, in that little tiny sliver of visible star stuff. 
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 1:54 am
And we only see those with Kepler that are precisely aligned to dim their stars. We just saw with Mercury how rare that is...
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 2:05 am
Crazy, innit?
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 3:36 am
(May 13, 2016 at 1:51 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: So 21. In that little tiny sliver of sky, in that little tiny sliver of visible star stuff.
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 4:53 am
(May 13, 2016 at 3:36 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (May 13, 2016 at 1:51 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: So 21. In that little tiny sliver of sky, in that little tiny sliver of visible star stuff.
I like the sentiment, but the number is unfortunately wrong. The visible Universe is much larger than 13.8 billion lightyears.
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 5:40 am
So...Kepler 1544-b on that chart appears to receive almost exactly the same amount of sunlight and is just slightly bigger than Earth. 1410-b is even closer in terms of size and receives slightly less sunlight. Of all the planets on there, those two are the most interesting to me O_O
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RE: Science Porn
May 13, 2016 at 7:07 am
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(May 13, 2016 at 1:54 am)Alex K Wrote: And we only see those with Kepler that are precisely aligned to dim their stars. We just saw with Mercury how rare that is... Although most of these planets orbit stars less massive, and cooler than the sun. That means these stars are disproportionally dim compared to their diameters. Therefore the habitable zone around these stars are also disproportionally closer to the star relative to the diameter of star. Since a high percentage of these planets appear to orbit inside the inner bounds of the habitable zone, it is clear most of these planets orbit far closer to their Stars in relation to the size of their Stars than any planet in the solar system.
So we can expect of these planets, a high proportion can be expected to be seen transiting their stars more frequently than Mercury.
One point of fine print, sort of a fly in the ointment, for the illustrated habitable zone is this:
While a star's brightness decreases much faster than its mass, it's gravitational pull does not. This means the smaller the star, the more extreme any planets in its habitable zone will feel the tidal forces of its sun's gravity. So a high percentage of those planets in the lower part of that diagram are likely to be tidal locked to their stars. This can not be good for their habitability even if the amount of energy they receive from their sun would otherwise place them in the habitable zone.
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