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Benghazi: What's the Charge Again?
RE: Benghazi: What's the Charge Again?
(May 10, 2014 at 4:55 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(May 10, 2014 at 4:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/09...tail=email



No wonder republicunts hate facts. So inconvenient.

In the Rose Garden, Obama said: "No acts of terror" not "an act of terror" as you claim. You need to get your facts straight. In the Rose Garden Obama specifically called the attack "brutal" and "outrageous" but he never specifically called it "an act of terror". Just because he used the phrase "no acts of terror" in his speech doesn't mean he was calling it a terrorist act. He was referring to terrorists acts in the general (hence his use of the plural).

What is a fact is that the day after the attack, Obama agreed he is reluctant to call this specific act a terrorist act. In fact he admits he believes there were people out to target Americans from the start, yet his administration sent Rice out on the Sunday morning stump to portray this as a spontaneous uprising. Obama lied. Obama mislead people during the debate and Crowley and CBS gave him cover.




I remember when the "O" gave that little speech in the Rose Garden, 9/12/2012. He used the general term, "No acts of terror" and avoided using the specific term, "terrorist attack". Recently surfaced emails between WH officials and testimonies before House Committee members have shown that the administration knew almost immediately that the attack on Benghazi was not a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim you tube video, but rather an organized terrorist attack (which was carried out by an al qaeda affiliate organization). Five days after the Benghazi attack, (and well after it was known to the administration that the attack on our consulate was carried out by organized terrorists), Susan Rice appeared on five Sunday News talk shows insisting that the attack was due to a spontaneous reaction to a you tube video. If Barack really intended to mean "terrorist attack" in his Rose Garden speech, then why didn't he, Hillary, or other WH officials publicly correct Susan Rice when she was insisting five days later, 9/16/2012, that the Benghazi attack was a spontaneous reaction to a video?
For Barack to actually admit then in his speech in the Rose Garden that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, especially after he repeated throughout his campaign speeches that "Bin Laden is dead, and al qaeda is on the run", would have been devastating to his presidential bid.

IMO, Barack lied to win the election.
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RE: Benghazi: What's the Charge Again?
(May 9, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: And you can run on a platform of "we're going to take health insurance away from 8 million of you." I bet it will go over swimmingly, if the GOP even makes more than a token effort.

I knew it! Democrats do not care about giving people health insurance; they only care about giving people something free in order to buy votes using someone else’s money. If we take it away and replace it with something better we can win easily. Couple that with the fact that the 6 million people who lost their health insurance after being told that if they liked it they could keep it will not be voting for any Democrat and the GOP cannot lose. Special elections in Florida already indicate the momentum has swung in the GOP’s favor. They will add seats in the House and most likely take back the Senate. Tough days ahead for Obama.

“During the campaign, Republicans routinely ran ads tethering Sink to the health-care law, which she said should be preserved but fixed. Democrats hoped Jolly's repeal/replace posture would alienate voters and doom his chances. His victory speaks volumes about how potent a weapon the law can be for Republicans this year.” – The Washington Post, Republican Jolly wins Florida special election

(May 9, 2014 at 10:23 pm)Heywood Wrote: I don't know that Bush actually lied in making his case for going to war. He could have been mislead concerning Saddam's WMD program as was Clinton.

You do not see how this works? If you are a Democrat and you are convinced by the preponderance of the evidence concerning WMDs such as President Clinton and Senator Clinton you were lied to. If you are a Republican and you are convinced by the preponderance of the evidence concerning WMDs you lied to the American people. See how that works? Tongue

I agree with you however; we did not need the WMDs in the first place in order to go into Iraq so I would have just preferred that not have been presented as the main reason we were going in.

(May 10, 2014 at 4:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Rep. Paul Ryan is still complaining about CNN’s Candy Crowley’s 2012 debate moderation. Specifically, about the fact that she corrected Mitt Romney for saying President Obama took 14 days to call the 9/11 attack on the Benghazi compound “an act of terror,” when Obama said those words in the Rose Garden the very day after the killings of four Americans.

You do realize that Crowley apologized for her misstep in that debate don’t you? Simply using the word terrorism in a speech does not mean a person is calling what happened in Benghazi an act of terrorism.

“I heard the president speak at the time. I, sort of, reread a lot of stuff about Libya because I knew we’d probably get a Libya question so I kind of wanted to be up on it. I knew that the president had said, you know, these acts of terror won’t stand or, whatever the whole quote was. Right after that I did turn around and say, but you’re totally correct that they spent two weeks telling us this was about a tape and that that there was this riot outside the Benghazi consulate which there wasn’t. He was right in the main, I just think he picked the wrong word, his thrust was correct.”- Candy Crowley, on CNN’s Panel after moderating the Romney/Obama debate.
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