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Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 12:59 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/09/te...or-pledge/
Quote:Texas school violates high court ruling by suspending teen who won’t stand for pledge
Quote:In 1943, the Supreme Court — in the case of West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette — ruled that persons may not be compelled to stand and observe the pledge, writing, “If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”
The school principal has not responded to requests for comment.
Odd for a state whose governor has endorsed secession.... again.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 1:14 pm
Wow, I didn't think they still did that pledge. More surprised it has not been ruled unconstitutional or had the god section removed from it.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 1:24 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Elskidor Wrote: More surprised it has not been ruled unconstitutional or had the god section removed from it.
Removed? They *added* it in 1954 after the Barnette case Min quoted.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm
That doesn't mean it shouldn't be removed now though.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 1:31 pm
In my opinion it sounds better without it
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 2:07 pm
The whole concept of 'pledging allegiance' should be tossed in the trash bin of history.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 2:10 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Elskidor Wrote: That doesn't mean it shouldn't be removed now though.
I don't disagree - but asking Congress to remove it is probably not going to happen.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Sadly, you're probably right.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 9, 2014 at 2:14 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 2:07 pm)Tonus Wrote: The whole concept of 'pledging allegiance' should be tossed in the trash bin of history.
This - and to do it daily smacks of patriotic indoctrination. Personally, I swore an oath when I entered the military, and I'll be damned if I'll say any damn pledge or swear any damn oath again because some asshat thinks I should.
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RE: Texas, Again
May 11, 2014 at 3:49 pm
So by not standing up at the pledge, you're...protesting the current government?
But its not for me to question the logic of others, especially when they are Americans who have no real sense of a nation, and very vague national symbols.
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