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Can you spot the pattern?
May 19, 2014 at 8:02 pm
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(May 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm)A Theist Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Albert Einstein
Alan Turing
Stephen Hawking
Richard Feynmann
Peter Higgs
Linus Pauling
Roger Penrose
Erwin Schrödinger
Victor J. Stenger
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a...technology
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_atheists
http://www.alternet.org/belief/8-atheist...nged-world
Do I need to go on, or are you done talking out your ass? In fact, Alan Turing is the very reason you're able to whine on an Internet forum: your argument is invalid.
It still doesn't answer my original question. These guys accomplished things for science and technology, not atheism. They were scientists and inventors who just happened to be atheists. Atheism didn't inspire their acheivements.
What great thing was ever accomplished in the name of atheism?
Oh, so it's a No True Scotsman. They're all atheists, but accomplished nothing "For Athilos, God of Atheism," therefore their contributions are meaningless.
Scientists, Football players others who happened to be Christian "Accomplished something for God."
Never mind the potential punishment up to and including death throughout history for NOT identifying as a Christian.
I suppose this is how you get around The Crusades, The Inquisition, Native American Genocide, and, sorry, have to say it: Hitler, who was a devout Catholic.
Put the goalposts back, you aren't fooling anyone.
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RE: Can you spot the pattern?
May 19, 2014 at 10:05 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 8:02 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm)A Theist Wrote: It still doesn't answer my original question. These guys accomplished things for science and technology, not atheism. They were scientists and inventors who just happened to be atheists. Atheism didn't inspire their acheivements.
What great thing was ever accomplished in the name of atheism?
Oh, so it's a No True Scotsman. They're all atheists, but accomplished nothing "For Athilos, God of Atheism," therefore their contributions are meaningless.
Oh, so you're distorting my reply. Where did I say their accomplishments were meaningless? That's not what I said. I said they accomplished things for science and technology, and that atheism wasn't the inspiration for their acheivements.
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May 19, 2014 at 10:27 pm
How can the lack of belief in gods be an inspiration? The cool thing about being an atheist is you get to credit the things that truly inspire you, instead of being pressured into giving all the glory to a non existent and lazy god. If god wants to be inspiring maybe he should start achieving some things himself.
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RE: Can you spot the pattern?
May 19, 2014 at 10:32 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 10:05 pm)A Theist Wrote: I said they accomplished things for science and technology, and that atheism wasn't the inspiration for their acheivements.
Let's flip this around.
So all those scientists who were incidentally Xtian, accomplished things because their inspiration wasn't science and technology, but rather Christianity? Is that what you're suggesting?
If not then what point are you making that cannot be applied to Christianity as well as atheism?
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May 19, 2014 at 10:48 pm
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May 19, 2014 at 10:56 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm)A Theist Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: What little good Christianity has done is irrelevant in comparison to all the violence and suffering it has and continues to perpetrate.
Oh yeah, Mother Teresa was a real terrorist....and the atheist physicist, Robert Oppenheimer did the world a great service.
So what you're saying here is that it was the big bad scary atheist physicist who helped make nuclear bombs, and then you go on to blatantly contradict yourself with this,
(May 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm)A Theist Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Albert Einstein
Alan Turing
Stephen Hawking
Richard Feynmann
Peter Higgs
Linus Pauling
Roger Penrose
Erwin Schrödinger
Victor J. Stenger
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a...technology
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_atheists
http://www.alternet.org/belief/8-atheist...nged-world
Do I need to go on, or are you done talking out your ass? In fact, Alan Turing is the very reason you're able to whine on an Internet forum: your argument is invalid.
It still doesn't answer my original question. These guys accomplished things for science and technology, not atheism. They were scientists and inventors who just happened to be atheists. Atheism didn't inspire their acheivements.
What great thing was ever accomplished in the name of atheism? where you say atheism had no bearing on their achievements. Oh I get it, they were atheist physicists when they worked on the nuclear weapons, but atheism didn't influence them at all when they contributed something positive. Because who the fuck needs consistency, when you're a theist?
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Can you spot the pattern?
May 19, 2014 at 11:01 pm
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(May 19, 2014 at 10:05 pm)A Theist Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 8:02 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Oh, so it's a No True Scotsman. They're all atheists, but accomplished nothing "For Athilos, God of Atheism," therefore their contributions are meaningless.
Oh, so you're distorting my reply. Where did I say their accomplishments were meaningless? That's not what I said. I said they accomplished things for science and technology, and that atheism wasn't the inspiration for their acheivements.
No one is distorting replies but you. Science and Technology are by definition atheistic: They do not assume <God Exists> or use <Because God> to explain anything.
The only reason science and technology have advanced is because people realized <GodDidIt> is not a sufficient answer.
Only those "Christian" scientists, doing science "for God" (God is apparently not very good at it, judging by the bible) only those who questioned what was presented as "Truth" in the bible advanced science.
(May 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm)A Theist Wrote: (May 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: What little good Christianity has done is irrelevant in comparison to all the violence and suffering it has and continues to perpetrate.
Oh yeah, Mother Teresa was a real terrorist....and the atheist physicist, Robert Oppenheimer did the world a great service.
And actually, you apparently don't know the first thing about Oppenheimer:
Quote:After the war he became a chief advisor to the newly created United States Atomic Energy Commission and used that position to lobby for international control of nuclear power to avert nuclear proliferation and an arms race with the Soviet Union. After provoking the ire of many politicians with his outspoken opinions during the Second Red Scare, he had his security clearance revoked in a much-publicized hearing in 1954, and was effectively stripped of his direct political influence; he continued to lecture, write and work in physics. Nine years later President John F. Kennedy awarded (and Lyndon B. Johnson presented) him with the Enrico Fermi Award as a gesture of political rehabilitation.
Oppenheimer's notable achievements in physics include the Born–Oppenheimer approximation for molecular wavefunctions, work on the theory of electrons and positrons, the Oppenheimer–Phillips process in nuclear fusion, and the first prediction of quantum tunneling. With his students he also made important contributions to the modern theory of neutron stars and black holes, as well as to quantum mechanics, quantum field theory, and the interactions of cosmic rays. As a teacher and promoter of science, he is remembered as a founding father of the American school of theoretical physics that gained world prominence in the 1930s. After World War II, he became director of the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton.
So basically, you're claiming the guy who helped build the first atomic bomb to fight the devout catholic Hitler who had caused the deaths of 60 Million People, and here you are sniveling "Oh, look at Oppenheimer. What a monster!"
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May 22, 2014 at 6:43 pm
I see A Theist is too busy wanking off to Minimalist in the other thread to care about cleaning the bedsheets from the last time he shit the bed?
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May 22, 2014 at 6:49 pm
(May 19, 2014 at 12:00 pm)Avodaiah Wrote: Just because you win doesn't make you right.
So, you support child labour, lack of education, workers' rights, freedom of and from religion, safety in the workplace, etc?
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RE: Can you spot the pattern?
May 22, 2014 at 7:09 pm
I also notice a pattern. If you disagree with so-called progressives they respond by calling you a racist, misogynistic, homophobe. Then they raise your taxes.
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