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Twilight and the Bible?
#11
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
Quote:I'm just getting really discontent at the current trends towards sexual pleasure in many aspects in our lives. Simple example: anyone else on deviantart? I can't help noticing that a lot of my friends who draw pictures of nude women

Can you say"prig"? Were you bitten by a Methodist?


I use the word deliberately as I'm at a loss understand how the emphasis other's lives is any of your business.


If you lack the maturity and empathy to accept your friends as they are, try to find someone as repressed an insensitive as your good self. With a friend like you that's one less enemy a person would need.

Get over yourself
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#12
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
(January 6, 2010 at 2:28 am)padraic Wrote:
Quote:I'm just getting really discontent at the current trends towards sexual pleasure in many aspects in our lives. Simple example: anyone else on deviantart? I can't help noticing that a lot of my friends who draw pictures of nude women

Can you say"prig"? Were you bitten by a Methodist?


I use the word deliberately as I'm at a loss understand how the emphasis other's lives is any of your business.


If you lack the maturity and empathy to accept your friends as they are, try to find someone as repressed an insensitive as your good self. With a friend like you that's one less enemy a person would need.

Get over yourself

I'll be frank: Yes, I'm one of those people who actually give a damn when talents are wasted, and the world descends into a pool of rotting filth and corruption. I'm one of those people who get worked up when I see perfectly healthy people begging on the streets, when they can seek proper employment, or at least education, and do their bit for society. I'm one of those people who, albeit in vain, childishly hopes for a society where people actually have a passion for learning, and WANT to use their time productively, instead of lazing around at home watching home-made porn and eating chips off their huge chests.

And yes, perhaps I make a terrible friend because I'm so very picky, but at the moment I have friends (even Christian ones) who understand, and possibly even share my tendencies for "prig"-ness, and I do them the favour of being considerate in return. That is, those 'deserving' of said treatment. (I use 'deserving' to differentiate my friends from those who don't have any sense of honour, nor shame from betrayal, for I have met a sample.) I may be heartless, I may be innately prejudiced, but I sure as hell ain't insensitive.

As can be seen from my, self-admittedly, defensive response.

So I ask you this: In a world decaying under the influence of blind faith and favoured stupidity, how long more will apathy be an option?
~We, the atheist, in creating a purpose for ourselves where there was none, are greater than God himself.~
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#13
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
I'll see your loaded question and raise you one joke!

Why did I plant emo grass in my yard?

Because it will cut itself!

Ta da,
Rhizo
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#14
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
(January 6, 2010 at 10:38 am)Azazylix Wrote: I'll be frank: Yes, I'm one of those people who actually give a damn when talents are wasted, and the world descends into a pool of rotting filth and corruption. I'm one of those people who get worked up when I see perfectly healthy people begging on the streets, when they can seek proper employment, or at least education, and do their bit for society.
For someone who can perform mental and physical health checks by sight alone to preach about wasted talents...

But seriously. Homelessness isn't often by choice or laziness. Is this drylandfish again?
- Meatball
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#15
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
Quote:In a world decaying under the influence of blind faith and favoured stupidity
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Facile generalisation unsupported by evidence. Unprovable and unfalsifiable as a principle.



Quote:how long more will apathy be an option?



Once again,the apathy of others is your business exactly how? Who gave you the authority to say what anyone 'ought' to do,say think or feel or not? You really don't get it,do you? I most sincerely hope you never have any authority over another human being.

To be blunt I find people who 'care' more terrifying than suicide bombers. WHY?. Well,you we don't get many (OK any) suicide bombers here in Adelaide. However,we're arse deep in 'caring' do gooders who make it their life's work to interfere in the lives of others and attempt to impose their anal retentive wowser values on others. A disproportionate number are obnoxiously aggressive atheists.

I avoid people who claim how much they 'like people or how much they 'care about others' .Such people I meet tend to have the insight of a goldfish and the depth of a petrie dish.They are almost invariably lying,if only to themselves. They are also often as also as dumb as bagful of hammers.

Of course I realise this is only an internet forum,and I don't know you.Sadly, that means I must assess people on what they actually say. Your posts mark you as pure D fool. A character flaw I know, but I don't suffer fools.Consequently,I have nothing further to say to you until such time as you demonstrate the capacity for critical thinking.
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#16
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
(January 6, 2010 at 4:43 pm)Meatball Wrote:
(January 6, 2010 at 10:38 am)Azazylix Wrote: I'll be frank: Yes, I'm one of those people who actually give a damn when talents are wasted, and the world descends into a pool of rotting filth and corruption. I'm one of those people who get worked up when I see perfectly healthy people begging on the streets, when they can seek proper employment, or at least education, and do their bit for society.
For someone who can perform mental and physical health checks by sight alone to preach about wasted talents...

But seriously. Homelessness isn't often by choice or laziness. Is this drylandfish again?

Pascal. Darwin. Galileo. I have nothing against homeless people, pray don't get me wrong in that moment of aggressiveness, but rather against people who are countering general progression in society, like murderers or thieves. Would you not agree that they could have used their precious consciousness to greater use?

@padraic: Then peace. I apologize for demonstrating my zeal in the initial comments pertaining to my own personal social circles, and for being defensive in the face of a personal insult. I am sorry you do not share my zeal for a (in my personal opinion) perfect world, and that I do not share your zeal for personal freedom. Same way neither you nor I will share Christian or Muslim vindications. (judged as listed in your 'Religious Views') Our beliefs differ, for that I propose a ceasefire lest it becomes too personal.

But I would just like to clarify something: You're right. I am a 'prig'. I love order. (I'm not going so far as to calling your beliefs a route downhill towards anarchy, but it is, once again, a personal belief that absolute freedom might not necessarily garner the best results.) But I will definitely try to understand, if not respect, your libertarian beliefs, or at least inclination towards freedom from activist pestering.

Regarding your statement: "Once again,the apathy of others is your business exactly how? Who gave you the authority to say what anyone 'ought' to do,say think or feel or not?", I was merely expressing my personal belief. Surely one can dream of a land with flying pink unicorns and candy mountains without being accused of pro-genetic-engineering?

But don't get me wrong; I do believe your opinions are of substantial value. I, too, dislike obnoxious people, but I say 'Actions speak louder than words', and my words on this forum would probably have less impact than an anti-religious parade. Freedom of expression, limitations to action.

So yes, perhaps I AM a "pure D fool". But in the same way all the members in this forum are fools to Jewish fundamentalists or Christian revolutionaries. (no association of rationality, just to demonstrate perspective) I apologize for overestimating my freedom of expression, but I do not apologize for my beliefs. I apologize for that.
~We, the atheist, in creating a purpose for ourselves where there was none, are greater than God himself.~
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#17
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
Atheism without critical thought is no better than fundamentalist theists, IMHO.
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#18
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
(January 7, 2010 at 12:43 am)Synackaon Wrote: Atheism without critical thought is no better than fundamentalist theists, IMHO.

Haha, wouldn't that be Lee Strobel's day! When atheism would require more faith than theism, or Christianity in particular.
~We, the atheist, in creating a purpose for ourselves where there was none, are greater than God himself.~
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#19
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
(January 7, 2010 at 12:43 am)Synackaon Wrote: Atheism without critical thought is no better than fundamentalist theists, IMHO.

At it's core I agree....

But I still think that atheists are far less likely to do something like 911.... well I mean - not because of their atheism anyway! They'd need to add in a cult to their mere disbelief in God (even if they are irrational in how they disbelieve). If that makes sense.

EvF
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#20
RE: Twilight and the Bible?
(January 7, 2010 at 6:56 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:
(January 7, 2010 at 12:43 am)Synackaon Wrote: Atheism without critical thought is no better than fundamentalist theists, IMHO.

At it's core I agree....

But I still think that atheists are far less likely to do something like 911.... well I mean - not because of their atheism anyway! They'd need to add in a cult to their mere disbelief in God (even if they are irrational in how they disbelieve). If that makes sense.

EvF

As do I. But if you're referring to things like 911, I believe (once again) Dawkins mentioned a brilliant example: atheists have no recognized community; we have no churches, nor synagogues, simply because we don't need them. We don't have Bibles or hymns, so there's no real collected vindication. I crudely quote him as likening the lobbying of atheists to the herding of cats. That, added to that mentality which tells us something like "if people in my community do it, it's okay" (the phrase is at the tip of my tongue) and actual power (politically in the United States, for example), perhaps differentiates us from the suicide bombers?

More importantly we don't have a Bible that says it's justified to kill in the FSM's name.

But what the hey! Extremists are everywhere anyway!
~We, the atheist, in creating a purpose for ourselves where there was none, are greater than God himself.~
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