In God We Trust

[Brian37]

I'm sorry, but removing "In God We Trust" from our currency is not even comparable to the struggle of blacks or women in our history. Nor is it anything like the means they used to win their rights. There are more fruitful avenues to political change than scratching out a stupid phrase on money.

Oh my god, really? This is the same flawed logic that allows humans to go from the abused to the abuser. There is no "virtue of the oppressed", first off. Secondly it is precisely because I value the prior struggles of minorities in the past that I say what I say. You are unwittingly devaluing their struggles by making it about labels instead of accepting that our evolution has always produced acts of cruelty and compassion.

Having those words on that money is divisive. It is precisely because humans believe different things that by having those words on it it allows religion to divide us politically. Saying it is pointless to use that as a form of protest is to ignore how religion poisons politics.

These same people who want it on will bitch if a Muslims during the pledge say Allah instead of God. This country took forever to elect Jews and Catholics, and if Thomas Jefferson were to have run for office for either party today with what he said about religion, he could not get elected.

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

You can google image her name and see a picture of her being beaten up by white Christian men. Do you think their sexism came from secular law? No it came from their bible and as long as that word "God" is on there even today it justifies bigotry towards other current minorities such as Muslims, gays and even atheists. "God" is not despite what some claim, neutral. From the first day Christians proposed putting it on our currency it was a violation of the First Amendment and only intended for them, no one else.

Our religious majority didn't even have the decency to at least leave that motto off the coin honoring her. It wasn't that she was an atheist herself, but she like I understood the dangers of religion mixing with government.

There can be no peace in government as long as it insists on gang tagging government property with gods no one can agree on. Secular law and common law, not religion, is why we are more civil in the west and why we are not a fascist theocracy.

If you really think those words are harmless being on money you are party to a future where a new minority will be subject to the same horrors and bigotry minorities of the past suffered from.

Now if you think it does not work, you don't have to do it yourself, but the others who want to do it, will and being an armchair quarterback will not stop them.

Every time we mark those words off someone sees it. Then when they get angry about it they bitch about it on social media, then secularists can use that as a teaching moment to state the facts of history. And again, most of the time what it does is not for the person getting angry about it, but acts as a stage for people who simply never thought about it, and for those people it can work because they are not pre brainwashed.

Kudos to everyone who does do this.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

' "In God We Trust." I don't believe it would sound any better if it were true.' - Mark Twain

Boru

[BlackSwordsman]

In science, 22 education systems scored above the U.S. average, up from

New survey ranks U.S. students 36th

I hate to tell you but

The U.S. was ranked 17th in an assessment of the education systems of 50 countries,

Our education sucks, as a result our country will suck and will never change. America will not grow if the education system stays the same.

Money is the least of our issues.

[Cinjin]

It is a painfully stupid phrase, especially considering that "GOD" is a very generic word. Who's god are we trusting again?

That being said, I just don't have the time or the interest in censoring the US government's perpetual and endless stupidity, even though I do believe that "In God We Trust" is a just a device used to keep the ignorant content.

[MindForgedManacle]

Oh my god, really? This is the same flawed logic that allows humans to go from the abused to the abuser. There is no "virtue of the oppressed", first off. Secondly it is precisely because I value the prior struggles of minorities in the past that I say what I say. You are unwittingly devaluing their struggles by making it about labels instead of accepting that our evolution has always produced acts of cruelty and compassion.

Okay dude, what the hell? Aside from jumping straight into non sequiturs and bare assertions, how have I devalued those past struggles or making this about labels? I said that you're doing something that just isn't going to do anything because it's pointless, and isn't going to affect any actual political change. You're trying to combat an absurdly small symptom instead of the underlying system that causes the symptom to manifest. It would be like having MLK Jr. spend his life trying to stop people from saying "nigger" instead of combating the political system and social morays that fostered hatred of blacks.

Having those words on that money is divisive. It is precisely because humans believe different things that by having those words on it it allows religion to divide us politically. Saying it is pointless to use that as a form of protest is to ignore how religion poisons politics.

Religion's poisoning of politics is on a much higher level than a phrase on currency. It's religion's influence on politics that allows for it to push forthat. Again, look at the forest, not the individual trees.

These same people who want it on will bitch if a Muslims during the pledge say Allah instead of God. This country took forever to elect Jews and Catholics, and if Thomas Jefferson were to have run for office for either party today with what he said about religion, he could not get elected.

Non sequitur.

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

You can google image her name and see a picture of her being beaten up by white Christian men. Do you think their sexism came from secular law? No it came from their bible and as long as that word "God" is on there even today it justifies bigotry towards other current minorities such as Muslims, gays and even atheists. "God" is not despite what some claim, neutral. From the first day Christians proposed putting it on our currency it was a violation of the First Amendment and only intended for them, no one else.

Again, non sequitr with the Anthony quote. And if you really think religion is the root cause of sexism, I suggest you look a bit more into psychology. Yet again, you're confusing an excuse some people give for sexism (religion) as if it were actually the root cause of it.

Our religious majority didn't even have the decency to at least leave that motto off the coin honoring her. It wasn't that she was an atheist herself, but she like I understood the dangers of religion mixing with government.

Do you really think the people designing these coins are even thinking particularly about everything to do with Anthony? I mean really dude, you are getting desperate.

There can be no peace in government as long as it insists on gang tagging government property with gods no one can agree on. Secular law and common law, not religion, is why we are more civil in the west and why we are not a fascist theocracy.

It shouldn't be there, but pretending that it's the only impediment to a peaceful government is laughable.

If you really think those words are harmless being on money you are party to a future where a new minority will be subject to the same horrors and bigotry minorities of the past suffered from.

My god dude, fuck off. I didn't say it was harmless, but I'm not splitting an ulcer on it when it's just a symptom of a sick system.

Now if you think it does not work, you don't have to do it yourself, but the others who want to do it, will and being an armchair quarterback will not stop them.

It's not going to work because it's absurdly small-minded. To give another analogy, it'd be like civil rights activists redacting all the racists parts of books as their means of enacting social change.

Every time we mark those words off someone sees it. Then when they get angry about it they bitch about it on social media, then secularists can use that as a teaching moment to state the facts of history. And again, most of the time what it does is not for the person getting angry about it, but acts as a stage for people who simply never thought about it, and for those people it can work because they are not pre brainwashed.

Do you know how few people would ever even notice that, much less how many will bother to bitch about it online?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

...This seems kind of pointless. 0_o

No it is not. Every time you do it you are using your voice, and every tiny bit counts all tactics included. It is not to gain sudden de conversions as much as it is to act as conversation piece to put the topic in the public square where it should be.

If blacks and women said "this is pointless" blacks would still be slaves and women would not be allowed to vote. "God" was not always on our currency and on top of that there is still the fact that "No religious test" is part of our common law. It is never pointless to point out facts, ever.

Since the government owns the money it can put whatever it wants on it. Besides, it's not like anyone ever has a lot of the stuff on him at any one time. And if it becomes a burden people can always stop using it. As long as I can spend it when I have it they can put a picture of BS on it. It's simply a non-issue.

[null--69]

Sometimes I black out the "god" and write FSM because the Flying Spaghetti Monster actually exists.

[BlackSwordsman]

Sometimes I black out the "god" and write FSM because the Flying Spaghetti Monster actually exists.

Who could deny this? I've seen actual photographs, we all have haven't we?

[null--69]

Sometimes I black out the "god" and write FSM because the Flying Spaghetti Monster actually exists.

Who could deny this? I've seen actual photographs, we all have haven't we?

I know I have, see. I'm convinced!

[Drewski Daisuki]

Since the government owns the money it can put whatever it wants on it.

The government owns public schools, too. Can they teach whatever they want? Even if it violates the first amendment?

And if it becomes a burden people can always stop using it.

Stop using money? You don't see how that's not an option?