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June 4, 2014 at 7:54 pm (This post was last modified: June 4, 2014 at 7:56 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
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RE: Rely on God
June 4, 2014 at 10:54 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 11:22 am)Godschild Wrote: Why would you give up on something that could change your life, are you afraid that people will call you religious, stupid, delusional. If it changes your life does that make you or them stupid and delusional.

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Because it's bullshit?
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RE: Rely on God
June 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 10:54 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:
(June 4, 2014 at 11:22 am)Godschild Wrote: Why would you give up on something that could change your life, are you afraid that people will call you religious, stupid, delusional. If it changes your life does that make you or them stupid and delusional.

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Because it's bullshit?

Really, how would you know.

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RE: Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 10:29 am
(June 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: Really, how would you know.

The same way we categorize anything else as bullshit -- lack of evidence and ability to substantiate claims.

That's how.
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RE: Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 12:12 pm
(June 5, 2014 at 10:29 am)JesusHChrist Wrote:
(June 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: Really, how would you know.

The same way we categorize anything else as bullshit -- lack of evidence and ability to substantiate claims.

That's how.

Christian drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers are far more successful than non Christian centers. I've personally seen the success they have and the failures the non Christian centers have.

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RE: Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 12:30 pm
(June 5, 2014 at 12:12 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(June 5, 2014 at 10:29 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: The same way we categorize anything else as bullshit -- lack of evidence and ability to substantiate claims.

That's how.

Christian drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers are far more successful than non Christian centers. I've personally seen the success they have and the failures the non Christian centers have.

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You have any sources to back this up?
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RE: Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 1:25 pm
(June 5, 2014 at 12:30 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(June 5, 2014 at 12:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Christian drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers are far more successful than non Christian centers. I've personally seen the success they have and the failures the non Christian centers have.

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You have any sources to back this up?

I know people here are going to run this down for various reasons, but none will help the people who need treatment.
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Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 1:25 pm
(June 4, 2014 at 10:54 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:
(June 4, 2014 at 11:22 am)Godschild Wrote: Why would you give up on something that could change your life, are you afraid that people will call you religious, stupid, delusional. If it changes your life does that make you or them stupid and delusional.

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Because it's bullshit?

The funny thing is, being a lifelong agnostic, I've lost track of the number of times religious people have called me stupid or delusional for not buying in.

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But it's not surprising to hear cries of persecution when a popular conversion tactic is turned around.
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RE: Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 2:20 pm
(June 5, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(June 5, 2014 at 12:30 pm)Irrational Wrote: You have any sources to back this up?

I know people here are going to run this down for various reasons, but none will help the people who need treatment.
http://teenchallengeusa.com/docs/a_summa...tudies.pdf

Is it just this one organization? Or are there other Christian ones just as successful?
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RE: Rely on God
June 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm
The idea that Christians do something better than secularists (for example, bake casseroles, sing better, organize more charities) in no way tells us that their god claims are true. This is a red herring, and it's one stinker of a fish.
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