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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 6:04 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Seriously, the issue is not what the evidence is so much as what you read into it. To a yec, the grand canyon is evidence for the flood. What you're asking for is a list of the things people misinterpret.
The problem with the YEC interpretation of the evidence is it is not consistent with other observations. The geology of the Colorado plateau in general does not support rapid formation of the Grand Canyon within the last few thousand years.
Another example is Statler's one way speed of of light hog wash. In order for it to work he has to assume that synchronized clocks are in error when measuring the two way speed of light. They have to be in error just the right way to support his theory. There is however no reason to believe such an error exists. We use synchronized clocks every day for electronic communications and we don't see evidence of asymmetrical speed of light.
While the YEC's might be able to point out different ways of looking at single points of data, their interpretation is simply not consistent with everything else.
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 1:56 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 12, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Personally, I consider spelling and grammar on an Internet forum to be much akin to dialect and use of language in real life. To be sure there are people who speak well but know little, but I've never been to a conference and heard someone say something on the lines of "today I'm gonna like tell you all about like acral lentigious melanomas which are like well bad! Seriously they are like properly dangerous! ".
Whilst the message is more than the medium, it helps if the medium is reasonably well formatted. Having all the knowledge in the world is of little use if you can't communicate it effectively. Leaving aside typos and autocorrect errors, which happen to everyone, why not simply try to make your views as clear as possible? It's not hard to do.
Problem is most people graduating today don't know how to spell or use proper grammar.
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 12, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 3:18 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Well? I see a lot of disingenuous shit bags here misinterpreting the theory of evolution, claiming it doesn't meet their standard of scientific evidence (pretending they even understand what that is). Since creationists are so good at putting their big boy (or girl) pants on and being skeptical when it comes to the mountain of facts contradicting their biblical worldview, let's try this: What IS the scientific evidence that a super genius created the world in six days, including all living creatures, dinosaurs and man, roaming side-by-side, 6,000 years ago? Anyone?
There are whole websites of that shit. Seems an odd question to ask a forum of Atheists.
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 12, 2014 at 2:14 pm
I see plenty of evidence for creationism. Largely this is the behavior of creationists.
What I don't see is evidence that this universe is the result of creation by a being with any human qualities.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 14, 2014 at 12:10 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 5:24 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Oh there's plenty of evidence. It's just all at a level which would not satisfy you.
How about ooparts?
Sorry but there is testable and verifiable PROOF that the story of creation is a fairy tale
Proof overcomes all else
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 14, 2014 at 12:28 pm
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 14, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Creatards are at a loss for any evidence for their proposal. In general they try to set up a false dichotomy in which if "evolution" can be shown to be false then the fallback position must be their holy horseshit. If evolution was completely wrong it would not provide one iota of evidence for the asinine idea that all life as well as the fucking universe began 6,000 years in the middle east.
Creatards cannot deal with that reality so they ignore it.
Fuck them.
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Evidence for Creationism
June 14, 2014 at 12:51 pm
(June 12, 2014 at 7:57 am)Vox Wrote: Kirk Cameron is one of the more "sucessful" advocates of creationism, and his most compelling evidence is...A banana.
Someone finally filled him in on what bananas looked like before humans started cultivating them and artificially selecting desired traits.
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 14, 2014 at 2:56 pm
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(June 12, 2014 at 9:06 am)archangle Wrote: for get literal bible. it is false. So we are real smart fighting a ghost story.
Show me where it is not logical to think that man came from the "dust" of the earth through god made evolution?
So something way more awesome and powerful looking than this:
Used billions of years and cycles of life and death to produce us, and prove a point, which is that he should be feared and worshipped:
But have faith in Jesus....or this guy...
or..fuck it, take it your pick from the thousands of faces on man's gods, because eventually the powerful Spirit will again hover over the waters and create a new heaven and Earth!
Are you sure this is the Creator we should trust to do that?
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RE: Evidence for Creationism
June 14, 2014 at 2:58 pm
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