(June 25, 2014 at 7:02 pm)vodkafan Wrote: I don't see the logic in that. And why do you feel the need to have any type of God at all, even one in us?
What is God?
God is desires and dreams. . .this what creates the religions today, etc.
Quote:Have you seen the one who takes as his god his own desire?
Then would you be responsible for him?
25.43
Have you seen he who has taken as his god his desire
and Allah has sent him astray due to knowledge
and has set a seal upon his hearing
and his heart and put over his vision a veil?
So who will guide him after Allah ?
Then will you not be reminded?
45.23
That is the interpretation provision for God. . .
and. . . what is the system in the doctrine of Islam?
The whole system is a trade system. . sale and purchase
Quote:I start with “0” faith, ie a Muslim
I sell “obedience” to Allah <- is about Muslim
Allah purchase and pay me with “faith” , ie. eliminating our GODS<- is about Believer
That’s how it works. . .
Similarly, I was born as "0" (baby) . . NO GOD
Then I have experiences, emotions etc. . .and
people starts telling me lies. .
and I have my own ideas. . and I become. .
Quote:I am God (1) (the idea of self as God). .
Then . . .
Quote:I obey the practical aspects of life from the Quran . .
Be free from God (desires and dreams inconsistent with nature, the Sunnatullah)
and becoming. . .
Quote:“No God” (0). . .just like babies
ie. I becoming empty and assimilate my desires with “nature”
ie. the Sunnatullah . . balance.
I becoming nature. .
wholeness
yin and yang
and becoming a
True Atheist
No God, No Religion, No Nonsense . . .
Quote:Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
there will be
no fear concerning them (No God)
nor will they grieve (No God)
10:62
Contradictorily. .
"I am God" is not baby (0)
It means we have desires and dreams that is inconsistent with nature, the Sunnatullah. .
It is . . ." I am God " (1) + "Allah" (1)
Whereas the rule is . . .
Quote:No god (0) + only Allah (1)
Say: He, Allah, is One. (112.1)
Therefore, "I am God" is illusion. . .
Why ?
It is 1 + 1 = 2
and 2 is illusion . .
2 is 1 + 1
3 is 1 + 1 + 1
10 is 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1
and so on. . .
it is just an additional "1" we have created ourselves in our heart. . .
These are all GODS (in our heart)
thousand, hundred thousands, millions, billions, trillions. . . of GODS
Therefore, how can one be an Atheist ? No God ?
Impossible!
The Buddhist Monks etc. . they are the True Atheist, but not others.
It is fake.. . it is plastic.
They can never be an Atheist, never . . . simply because they have too many GODS!
The truth, our journey is from "NO GOD" (0) to "I AM GOD" (1) and to "NO GOD" (0). . . Atheism!
voluntarily or by compulsion. . .