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Psychiatry Exposed
#41
RE: Psychiatry Exposed
Haha, I just realised how inappropriate my username is in this thread. <3

(July 8, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Little lunch Wrote: Lack of understanding is a problem. Not one of my remaining friends or family have ever researched depression. They're ignorant. Anything I tell them is an just an excuse for my behaviour. I will always be an arsehole or just plain crazy to them.

A frustrating and all to common reaction.
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#42
RE: Psychiatry Exposed
(July 8, 2014 at 6:44 pm)Insanity Wrote: Haha, I just realised how inappropriate my username is in this thread. <3

It's not inappropriate. Insanity is the new sanity! Tongue

(July 8, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe an even better question would be: why the hell are we so fucking depressed?

The answer is obvious:

Because no one is prescribing us Catmemes.


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(July 8, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Sadly, the common approach is to have the GP just throw pills at the problem.

Because pills are good for the cash cows.

Quote:The switch from talk therapy to medications has swept psychiatric practices and hospitals, leaving many older psychiatrists feeling unhappy and inadequate. A 2005 government survey found that just 11 percent of psychiatrists provided talk therapy to all patients, a share that had been falling for years and has most likely fallen more since. Psychiatric hospitals that once offered patients months of talk therapy now discharge them within days with only pills.

Recent studies suggest that talk therapy may be as good as or better than drugs in the treatment of depression, but fewer than half of depressed patients now get such therapy compared with the vast majority 20 years ago. Insurance company reimbursement rates and policies that discourage talk therapy are part of the reason. A psychiatrist can earn $150 for three 15-minute medication visits compared with $90 for a 45-minute talk therapy session.

Talk Doesn’t Pay, So Psychiatry Turns Instead to Drug Therapy

Dodgy
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#43
RE: Psychiatry Exposed
Here's another thing that it is so stupid that it makes me laugh. People who refuse and/or don't want to take medications, there's a name for that also ...

It's called "Non-compliance with Treatment Disorder."

Quote:You people are in serious denial. As a matter of fact, your unwillingness to seek professional help is itself a symptom of a serious mental problem. It’s right here in this book: 15.81 "Noncompliance with Treatment Disorder.”

– Mark Syverud, "Don't stop the insanity," the Daily Messenger

The DSM's Ridiculous Labels

I mean, it's just funny how such perfectly normal and healthy behaviors get categorized and labelled as mental disorders. Even one's choice to refuse professional help or medical treatment is deemed to be a symptom of a mental "disorder." And such labels can be thrown around too easily and vaguely without even requiring any scientific methods of validation behind them.

That is ludicrous.
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#44
RE: Psychiatry Exposed
If a person has a compulsive behavior - like refusing medical treatment, and it is impacting their life in a negative way...........

I doubt that you would get diagnosed with that disorder for saying, "Doc, I don't want to take these antidepressants, here's why (if you're wondering)- so I'm going to exercise my rights and pass."
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#45
RE: Psychiatry Exposed
(July 10, 2014 at 10:15 am)Rhythm Wrote: If a person has a compulsive behavior - like refusing medical treatment, and it is impacting their life in a negative way...........

I doubt that you would get diagnosed with that disorder for saying, "Doc, I don't want to take these antidepressants, here's why (if you're wondering)- so I'm going to exercise my rights and pass."

You wouldn't - and the operative phrase is the "impacting their life in a negative way".

There's a reason professionals caution against laypersons self-diagnosing with the DSM - the language used has very specific meaning within the field, meaning which is not apparent to someone not trained.
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#46
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(July 7, 2014 at 5:32 pm)Rayaan Wrote: These days, many people in America who have mental health issues go to psychiatrists to complain about their problems. But after they go there, every little problem they have gets labelled and turned into a mental disorder. And then people start to panic about it more, which worsens their conditions. Even someone who has experienced a moderate level of stress and/or depression may get written off as having an "illness" in his brain that needs to be treated with psychotropic drugging.

Psychiatrists oftentimes tell their patients something along the lines of "What you have is basically a chemical imbalance in your brain that's causing you to feel the way you feel. But the good news is that there is a pill that can fix that, and you should take it," without conducting any kind of lab or physical tests on the patients to prove that there really is a "chemical imbalance" in the brain. Therefore it is not unreasonable to conclude that modern psychiatry, shamefully, lacks scientific validity. And this is something that even psychiatrists admitted.

"Despite more than two hundred years of intensive research, no commonly diagnosed psychiatric disorders have proven to be either genetic or biological in origin, including schizophrenia, major depression, manic-depressive disorder, the various anxiety disorders, and childhood disorders such as attention-deficit hyperactivity. At present there are no known biochemical imbalances in the brain of typical psychiatric patients - until they are given psychiatric drugs." - Peter Breggin, Psychiatrist

Even more laughable is the fact that many of the antidepressants doesn't actually make you better. Instead they simply numb down your attention and your emotions and oftentimes will lead to extremely dangerous side effects, including suicidal thoughts. So the question is (and it's rhetorical), why should any person who has a sound reasoning capacity, and is aware of these facts, ever take such a risk in an attempt to cure himself?

Psychological side-effects of anti-depressants worse than thought

Anti-depressants likely do more harm than good, study suggests

What are the real risks of antidepressants?

Part 1: The Roots - Robert Whitaker - Psychiatric Epidemic (Video)

A Dry Pipeline for Psychiatric Drugs

The Emperor's New Drugs: Exploding the Antidepressant Myth

Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America

Pharmageddon


It doesn't require much investigation to realize that the whole psychiatry industry today is rather a nicely packaged fraud, a deception, making people think that taking these drugs will "help" them, even though it actually hurts them more. They've been able to convince just enough people to take drugs like this, with duplicitous commercials and selective suppression of facts, which as a result of they're amassing billions of dollars every year. And that's pretty much the number one motivation behind selling these psychiatric drugs - i.e. money. It doesn't matter if the drugs are dangerous to health as long as people are gullible enough and the Pharma-funded psychiatry industry is chiseling out pots of money out of them.

The Corrupt Alliance of the Psychiatric-Pharmaceutical Industry

The Psychiatrist Whistleblower Big Pharma Can’t Shut Up


Here are two documentaries that provide more exposure of some of the slimy, double-dealing tactics of psychiatry and how it has pulled people into its tangled web of lies while acting under the guise of being the most ardent savior of mental health:

Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging

The DSM: Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam


I must add the following point also: I don't deny that there are good psychiatric programs out there that are indeed helpful to some extent (the ones which take a more humanistic approach, such as talk therapy and counseling). But, on a larger scale, psychiatry seems be more destructive than helpful, especially when drugs are involved. And, unfortunately, with the rise of pharmaceutical and insurance industries, the practice of psychiatry has considerably shifted from talk therapy to drug therapy.

Anyway, that'll be enough for now. I think that there still might be many disagreements from members with what I wrote in this post, but that's fine.

I'll consider all the disagreements/criticisms/feedback as best as I can.

Scientology cult propaganda through one of it's front groups, citizens commission on human rights. Their cultist agenda is to discredit mental health supplanting it with l ron hubbard's scientology.

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#47
RE: Psychiatry Exposed
(July 10, 2014 at 11:13 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: There's a reason professionals caution against laypersons self-diagnosing with the DSM - the language used has very specific meaning within the field, meaning which is not apparent to someone not trained.

I used to go through my ex-wifes dsm and poke fun at it, she made me feel like an ass or a simpleton at every turn...lol, learned my lesson long ago.
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#48
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(July 10, 2014 at 10:15 am)Rhythm Wrote: If a person has a compulsive behavior - like refusing medical treatment, and it is impacting their life in a negative way...........

I doubt that you would get diagnosed with that disorder for saying, "Doc, I don't want to take these antidepressants, here's why (if you're wondering)- so I'm going to exercise my rights and pass."

But if the doctor thinks that the illness you have is something "severe," and you still refuse to take medications, then he might say that you lack the capacity to make your own informed decisions. And based on that he could also insist that you are at an imminent risk of injuring your own self and/or others, which would then make you qualified to be involuntary hospitalized and perhaps even forced to take drugs per the psychiatric commitment laws in the United States.

Quote:In contrast to genuine medical patients, involuntary psychiatric patients may be deprived of all their civil rights. They can be held indefinitely against their will on the word of a psychiatrist. Habeus corpus hearings, where the psychiatric "patient" petitions for freedom, are typically farcical rubber stamps of the psychiatrist’s authority. Committed patient can be deprived of the right to drive, to vote, to manage money, and to communicate with their friends, relatives, and doctors. The psychiatric ward is a total institution under the absolute authority of psychiatrists and their designated agents. Inmates can be forced to take drugs against their will. They can be put in isolation. They can be forced to undergo electroshock treatment and lobotomy against their will. They are at the mercy of their "helpers."

Critique of Medical-Coercive Psychiatry
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(July 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm)Rayaan Wrote: But if the doctor thinks that the illness you have is something "severe," and you still refuse to take medications, then he might say that you lack the capacity to make your own informed decisions.

He might indeed think that.

(July 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm)Rayaan Wrote: And based on that he could also insist that you are at an imminent risk of injuring your own self and/or others,

This is, as far as I'm aware, *not* how the law is interpreted. "Immanent risk of injuring self or others" refers to overt acts (e.g. suicide attempt and/or violence against others).

(July 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm)Rayaan Wrote: which would then make you qualified to be involuntary hospitalized and perhaps even forced to take drugs per the psychiatric

Back in the 1950's, you might be on to something - getting an involuntary commitment back then was pretty easy. Not so today.
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