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Obama reiterates: "I believe in God"
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RE: Obama reiterates: "I believe in God"
(July 31, 2014 at 11:55 am)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 31, 2014 at 2:39 am)Minimalist Wrote: America is NOT a xtian nation, shithead.

That's what he said?

The douchebag said that Obama said it.

Actuallly, I think it was in the Treaty of Tripoli that it was first said.

Quote:Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

1797 is a long time ago...especially for jesus freaks.
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RE: Obama reiterates: "I believe in God"
No State is religiously oriented from a legal perspective, that doesn't mean the practical public life decisions aren't satisfying the predominant religion. From what I've searched and chatted about the US here on AF, I can tell you guys are certainly not a secular nation - Laws against people who don't believe in god not being able to exercise public functions, sexuality conversion therapy allowed (I just checked that out in another thread), discrimination and prejudice against atheists and probably against other religions, gay marriage is still not allowed in some States and anti-gay protests, the republicans are a good example of it... Not that I think my country is completely secular, not by any chance, religion is still installed deep inside public opinions and decisions, but some things that happen in the US wouldn't happen here. The case of conversion therapy or anti-gay protests that spread hate.
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RE: Obama reiterates: "I believe in God"
(July 30, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I'm actually glad.

His approval rating is so low, that if he came out as an atheist, he would set back the possibility of an atheist being elected by decades. It would be just one more thing the idiots could blame their disapproval on.

It's important to remember that a significant portion of his disapproval rating, much like the disapproval rating of Obamacare, is from liberals like myself.

History will have to debate whether Obama was a deluded and tragic idealist or an ingenious sellout.
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