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Poll: What should we be asking out of the following?
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"How are we here?"
50.00%
4 50.00%
"Why are we here?"(classic one there).
0%
0 0%
Both "How are we and why are we here?"
12.50%
1 12.50%
"Are we here?" just my little tribute to my favourite band there Tongue
37.50%
3 37.50%
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"How are we here?"
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"How are we here?"
I put this in the science forum because I want to suggest that: "Why are we here?" is a more religious or philosophical question, whereas "How are we here?" is a more scientific one.
I do not believe life, including human life, exists for an ultimate non-man-made purpose. So I think its more scientific to ask "How?" rather than "Why?"
Another public poll.
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#2
RE: "How are we here?"
There is no answer to the "why" because there is no absolute "reason" for life.
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#3
RE: "How are we here?"
(November 3, 2008 at 7:00 pm)Tiberius Wrote: There is no answer to the "why" because there is no absolute "reason" for life.
Yep, we don't so much have purpose as we have potential. Our "purposes" are man-made and there is no "ultimate purpose" or "reason for life".
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RE: "How are we here?"
(November 3, 2008 at 6:41 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I put this in the science forum because I want to suggest that: "Why are we here?" is a more religious or philosophical question, whereas "How are we here?" is a more scientific one.
I do not believe life, including human life, exists for an ultimate non-man-made purpose. So I think its more scientific to ask "How?" rather than "Why?"
Another public poll.

All I know is we are here. I don't share the arrogant faith perspective that demands the question why we are here and for what purpose? Why should there be a purpose?
We exist, then we cease to exist. That's enough for me.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: "How are we here?"
(November 3, 2008 at 8:19 pm)bozo Wrote:
(November 3, 2008 at 6:41 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I put this in the science forum because I want to suggest that: "Why are we here?" is a more religious or philosophical question, whereas "How are we here?" is a more scientific one.
I do not believe life, including human life, exists for an ultimate non-man-made purpose. So I think its more scientific to ask "How?" rather than "Why?"
Another public poll.

All I know is we are here. I don't share the arrogant faith perspective that demands the question why we are here and for what purpose? Why should there be a purpose?
We exist, then we cease to exist. That's enough for me.

Actually. Bozo got it right. Hey Bozo. You got it right. The Bible agrees. There is no purpose of it all. What a stupid weak minded spot of fucking puke to think that there is some stupid purpose. "Oh! Gee! Sign me up so I can piss that away!"

We were created to enjoy ourselves not to appease some fake God.

Look at everything around you and oddly enough. Piss that away as well.
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RE: "How are we here?"
(November 3, 2008 at 6:41 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I put this in the science forum because I want to suggest that: "Why are we here?" is a more religious or philosophical question, whereas "How are we here?" is a more scientific one. I do not believe life, including human life, exists for an ultimate non-man-made purpose. So I think its more scientific to ask "How?" rather than "Why?"

I had an argument like this recently where someone suggested that the how of the universe being here was not something science could explain, my response was that the "why" can often be the "how" (er ...or vice versa) so it looks like you & I are on much the same page Smile

Kyu
(November 3, 2008 at 10:29 pm)Daystar Wrote: Look at everything around you and oddly enough. Piss that away as well.

Why should we? Why would we (as a race) want to?

Kyu
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RE: "How are we here?"
(November 3, 2008 at 10:29 pm)Daystar Wrote:
(November 3, 2008 at 8:19 pm)bozo Wrote:
(November 3, 2008 at 6:41 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I put this in the science forum because I want to suggest that: "Why are we here?" is a more religious or philosophical question, whereas "How are we here?" is a more scientific one.
I do not believe life, including human life, exists for an ultimate non-man-made purpose. So I think its more scientific to ask "How?" rather than "Why?"
Another public poll.

All I know is we are here. I don't share the arrogant faith perspective that demands the question why we are here and for what purpose? Why should there be a purpose?
We exist, then we cease to exist. That's enough for me.

Actually. Bozo got it right. Hey Bozo. You got it right. The Bible agrees. There is no purpose of it all. What a stupid weak minded spot of fucking puke to think that there is some stupid purpose. "Oh! Gee! Sign me up so I can piss that away!"

We were created to enjoy ourselves not to appease some fake God.

Look at everything around you and oddly enough. Piss that away as well.
Daystar,can you repeat this in language I can understand? I don't get your post. You're either the bit of puke you mention or so intellectual that perhaps you can't come down to my level.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#8
RE: "How are we here?"
We all create (or receive) purposes in our life, and if you're like me you don't like to wander through life aimlessly. Maybe that's why some of us ponder on 'why are we here?'
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility"

Albert Einstein
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#9
RE: "How are we here?"
(November 4, 2008 at 6:39 pm)CoxRox Wrote: We all create (or receive) purposes in our life, and if you're like me you don't like to wander through life aimlessly. Maybe that's why some of us ponder on 'why are we here?'
Yes, its called the intentional stance and its essential for at least human survival. The by-product of this can often be in seeing intentions behind things that don't actually have intentions.
So at least some people at least sometimes think the universe has an intention/intentions behind it, and some people I guess you could say call this "God" although they very probably have other reasons for believing in God, although perhaps those reasons are often different interpretations of the same thing.
And maybe all the Bible/Koran stuff, etc, etc, are just examples of people seeing intentions/meaning in things when there isn't any.
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#10
RE: "How are we here?"
I can't shake the feeling that nothing actually exists at all and everything you may think you are aware of is simply an illusion.

This probably comes from being brought up on h2g2 and studying too much quantum stuff!!
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