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Why are deists so annoying?
#21
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm)Tonus Wrote: The few deists I know seem to be aware that their belief is mostly based on intuition and thin arguments like the designed or fine-tuned universe.

This is what makes it all the more confusing for me.

Pretty much every Deist I've spoken to/met, is pretty damn intelligent. Probably more so than myself at least on the whole. Like you say, they're very much aware they can't provide a convincing argument. But this is why I think they're being intellectually dishonest with themselves. Why is it they can convince themselves there's some supernatural entity, but no one else? They choose to make the leap of faith, in spite of them knowing it's unnecessary. I will never understand that.
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#22
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:13 pm)Losty Wrote: What is AFAIK? Everyone keeps saying that.

First Pastafarianism, now Internet-lingo?! Christ, we're a-gonna hafta edumacate you, girl.

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#23
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Deism: Atheism-Lite for believers afraid to turn off the night light and sleep without their stuffed toys.

I don't have stuffed toys, but I always leave a light on and usually bring my toys to bed with me Wink
Maybe I am a closet Deist.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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#24
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(August 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm)Tonus Wrote: The few deists I know seem to be aware that their belief is mostly based on intuition and thin arguments like the designed or fine-tuned universe.

This is what makes it all the more confusing for me.

Pretty much every Deist I've spoken to/met, is actually pretty damn intelligent. Like you say, they're very much aware they can't provide a convincing argument. But this is why I think they're being intellectually dishonest with themselves. Why is it they can convince themselves, but no one else?

They're thinking with their hearts -- I feel like there's a god.

(August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Losty Wrote: [...]but I always leave a light on and usually bring my toys to bed with me Wink
Maybe I am a closet Deist.

Come out of the closet ... and bring your toys with you. Wink Shades

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RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 6, 2014 at 3:13 pm)Losty Wrote: What is AFAIK? Everyone keeps saying that.

First Pastafarianism, now Internet-lingo?! Christ, we're a-gonna hafta edumacate you, girl.

You guys have been living in the world of interwebs longer than I have. Joined my first forum in October, and created a Facebook a few days ago. Now I had one before also, but that was a while back.
Also, if it's not sexy I have a hard time concentrating on it. So I'm oblivious to a lot of things.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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#26
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:42 pm)Losty Wrote:
(August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: First Pastafarianism, now Internet-lingo?! Christ, we're a-gonna hafta edumacate you, girl.

You guys have been living in the world of interwebs longer than I have. Joined my first forum in October, and created a Facebook a few days ago. Now I had one before also, but that was a while back.
Also, if it's not sexy I have a hard time concentrating on it. So I'm oblivious to a lot of things.

You know I'm just teasin' you. Smile

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#27
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: First Pastafarianism, now Internet-lingo?! Christ, we're a-gonna hafta edumacate you, girl.

Internet acronyms seem to come out of nowhere.. Is everyone else just watching urban dictionary to pick them up? I'm more concerned with her not playing enough video games..

*cough* 60 reps *cough*
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RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Insanity Wrote: I'm more concerned with her not playing enough video games..

*cough* 60 reps *cough*

Maybe you should tell her there's a joystick involved?

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#29
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
They don't always think with their hearts, not according to them, they usually spit out lots of philosophical arguments to justify god's existence, the main ones being the cosmological first cause argument, the argument from complexity. Many of them say rationality is their tool to believe that a deity exists. I will agree deism has no dogmas (even their belief in god can be questioned, that's why some deists become atheists later), and many of these deists seem fairly intelligent people, they are just afraid to let go the other hand. And they get annoyed when I tell them deism is an unfalsifiable claim (it is).

I think the reason deists, from my experience similarly to theists, get so easily offended and hurt with critics is because they know deism, just like theism, is full of flaws and they are afraid to see their position refuted successfully. As an atheist, I gladly accept all critics, I usually say that to give atheism a better stance we ought to refute all critics, refusing them only shows fear.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#30
RE: Why are deists so annoying?
(August 6, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Insanity Wrote:
(August 6, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: First Pastafarianism, now Internet-lingo?! Christ, we're a-gonna hafta edumacate you, girl.

Internet acronyms seem to come out of nowhere.. Is everyone else just watching urban dictionary to pick them up? I'm more concerned with her not playing enough video games..

*cough* 60 reps *cough*

I don't even know how to play nintendo and Vosur was telling me about his game and I was like oh hell no. Tarty tried to explain another one but I just didn't get it.
I did download this game on my phone. I haven't tried it yet. It's called Ingress. I will let you know how it goes.

Oh and yea yea you caught back up. All I have to say is, I did not start this war, but I will finish it. :p
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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