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October 7, 2014 at 10:17 am (This post was last modified: October 7, 2014 at 10:33 am by The Grand Nudger.)
We watch horror movies, reality tv (including er, cops, and "murder porn"), and we rubberneck at crashes - are any of these activities immoral?
(for the record, I say no - and all I see in shadenfreude is a coping mechanism - familiarizing ourselves with tragedy, practicing for death - the cathartic release that you might get from tragedy requires that you empathize with the unfortunate individual in the first place, and from that angle...it doesn't sound so horrible as "deriving joy from the misfortune of others" - even though that's exactly what all of the examples above are. I'm just glad it wasn't me - this time, hell..that's reason enough to pour a drink)
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I think it's immoral if someone doesn't deserve the bad thing happen to them.
But it's the most funny thing in the world seeing someone who deserves to have something bad happen to them.
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October 7, 2014 at 1:32 pm (This post was last modified: October 7, 2014 at 1:32 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
I've felt it, sure. And I think it's sometimes okay to feel it -- when the misfortune falls into the category of "just desserts", I'm cool with a little "shady joy".
(October 7, 2014 at 12:44 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Moslem extremists blowing themselves up while building a bomb intended for an orphanage.
... and to get a dose of irony, leaving behind children.
(October 7, 2014 at 10:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: We watch horror movies, reality tv (including er, cops, and "murder porn"), and we rubberneck at crashes - are any of these activities immoral?
(for the record, I say no - and all I see in shadenfreude is a coping mechanism - familiarizing ourselves with tragedy, practicing for death - the cathartic release that you might get from tragedy requires that you empathize with the unfortunate individual in the first place, and from that angle...it doesn't sound so horrible as "deriving joy from the misfortune of others" - even though that's exactly what all of the examples above are. I'm just glad it wasn't me - this time, hell..that's reason enough to pour a drink)
Yep, that's it. No irony required.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
I frequently have feelings of schadenfreude but I never have any choice in it, the feelings just happen. If these feelings are sometimes "immoral" but I have no control over having them does that mean I am an "immoral" person?
Regards
Grimesy
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(October 7, 2014 at 5:18 pm)pgrimes15 Wrote: I frequently have feelings of schadenfreude but I never have any choice in it, the feelings just happen. If these feelings are sometimes "immoral" but I have no control over having them does that mean I am an "immoral" person?
Regards
Grimesy
I sure hope we will not be ultimately judged for our feelings. As you say they just happen.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
October 7, 2014 at 5:28 pm (This post was last modified: October 7, 2014 at 5:30 pm by Losty.)
(October 7, 2014 at 1:10 am)Exian Wrote: I'm surprised any part of 'schadenfreude' means 'joy'. Are there any happy sounding German words?
I don't think it's always immoral; it depends on the format, the severity of the misfortune, and where the fault lands . When watching a show like Tosh.0 or AFV, there's an understanding that you aren't going to witness death, and since its in the past there's the assumption that there has been recovery. So we laugh. Or I do, anyway. It's the same with telling a story. You could be describing some horrible luck that happened to you in the past, but because you are standing there now, you must be ok, so it's ok to laugh. You could witness some extremely terrible things and react appropriately, and have a good laugh later on recalling.
Of course, getting joy from watching a person die is immoral, at least according to my morals.
I don't know...Vosur talks sweet to me in German sometimes and it's very romantic and alluring.
As far as the OP goes...I am definitely guilty of schadenfreude. Meh I think it's only natural to be somewhat amused by small misfortunes of others. It's just like Americas Funniest Home Videos, it's almost all just videos of people doing dumb stuff and getting hurt.
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(October 7, 2014 at 5:18 pm)pgrimes15 Wrote: I frequently have feelings of schadenfreude but I never have any choice in it, the feelings just happen. If these feelings are sometimes "immoral" but I have no control over having them does that mean I am an "immoral" person?
No. You are made immoral by your actions, not thoughts.
