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Trials
#51
RE: Trials
Oh, ffs Drich! I hope for you to get better, what I wish is for you to get a few enemas along the way Big Grin
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#52
RE: Trials
(October 22, 2014 at 3:05 pm)Drich Wrote:
(October 22, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Then, it will be evidence of nothing. Unless you have statistics to show Christians are more likely than others to have spontaneous remissions, it's just a spontaneous remission. That happens. We don't know why does not equal god done it. There's a lot of stuff we don't know.

I hope you are one of those that causes us to scratch our heads though. You are irritating as heck with A/S/K, but I'd rather you irritating than dead.

even if this does not work to convert all of you, could you imagine what would happen if you spent the last six months thinking about something like this and was 'healed?"

This has already happened to me once, and it changed my life. Imagine if it happened to you more than once what it would tell you of God personally?

It would tell me precisely nothing. Bad things happen to good people. Good things happen to bad people. Good things happen to good people. And bad things happen to bad people. So?

I like to think I'm reasonably good people. I won the lottery by being born into a middle class family in the western world with a few brains. Lucky. I'm not as lucky as other people in the west. Unlucky. I have TMJ. Painful and unlucky. I have a good income. Lucky. And so on and so on.

I'm sure there's some much more deserving woman with cancer who is dying early somewhere in the third world who's much more moral and deserving than me.

I don't see God in this.

If you don't have cancer, I'll be happy for you, but I won't see god in it. To do that I'd have to explain that third world saint suffering for nothing.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#53
RE: Trials
Impeccable German impression, D. Get well.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#54
RE: Trials
I appreciate the well wishing, but i feel fine.. It's the doctors who are telling me there is something wrong with me.. and even then it's been over 6 months and they can't tell me what.. Only that it looks closest to cancer.
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#55
RE: Trials
Drich, just a few weeks ago, my dad went into the hospital with some intestinal problem.
The doctors immediately suspected cancer. They hospitalized him and made him wait, for over 2 weeks, for the results of the colonoscopy....All the symptoms pointed to cancer.... 90% chance of cancer... turned out it wasn't cancer.... woohoo!
Crohn's disease... almost as bad, but manageable.

Just to tell you that 90% chance means there's a 10% chance it isn't! Wink
Still... the odds aren't favorable, but it can happen!
You'll know when you know. And when you know, listen to advice of the doctors and take the best path you can.
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#56
RE: Trials
(October 23, 2014 at 9:38 am)pocaracas Wrote: Drich, just a few weeks ago, my dad went into the hospital with some intestinal problem.
The doctors immediately suspected cancer. They hospitalized him and made him wait, for over 2 weeks, for the results of the colonoscopy....All the symptoms pointed to cancer.... 90% chance of cancer... turned out it wasn't cancer.... woohoo!
Crohn's disease... almost as bad, but manageable.

Just to tell you that 90% chance means there's a 10% chance it isn't! Wink
Still... the odds aren't favorable, but it can happen!
You'll know when you know. And when you know, listen to advice of the doctors and take the best path you can.

As I've said. It isn't till it is. If it is then we will endure till this trial passes one way or another.
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#57
RE: Trials
(October 20, 2014 at 1:08 am)Drich Wrote: Many of you often point to hardship and suffering as evidence of an unloving God. For the biblically minded this is a non issue, but for those who adhear to the idea of an Omnibenevolent God this is a deal breaker. Now I'm not here to go over all that again, unless your new and need to see what the bible actually says about the Love of God.

I am here to share my most recent trial. It for some maybe justice and other it may mean nothing. About six months ago I go health insurance again for the fist time in 10+ years, and decided to get checked out. Since this was the first time with a new doc I had to give blood and urine along with the physical. The urine tested positive with blood. I was sent to a lab where the took blood and urine again. It came back with blood in the urine again, along with an elevated white cell count. Outside of the my triglycerides were marginally high and my blood pressure was marginally high. The doc said the white cells were nothing too major to be concerned about, but he would like to give it a few months and test again. So I did, and still had a trace of blood in the urine sample I gave and my white cell count went up. So over the last 3 months I have had another 5 blood test, and a trip to the urologist later my white cell count has doubled, and I found out I have an enlarged prostate, and no kidney stones.
My urologist order his own blood test and in it he was checking for cancer markers. It came back and it showed positive for markers that would indicate cancer for non-hodgekins lymphoma, or prostate cancer. If you google non hodgekins lymphoma it's the scarier of the two. He recommended that I see a hemotologist. We found one that my insurance company will work with, and I went to get checked out there Thursday. It was in the university of Florida cancer research center, and wow. cancer treatment seems way worse than cancer. These guys look like zombies, no one spoke, most of them just stared while connected to various bags of fluids. All while the news was telling us how the hospitals we depend on are not equip to care for more than 10 eboli cases country wide... Then someone sneezed and the zombie herd turned to stare at them.

Well my new doc looked at all my blood work for the last six months, and told me: "vell, ve Von't, be catching any fish use-ink dees, numbers." (He reminded me of 'The Germans are coming' for a second) it seems, Vée half a miss-tery ont our Hans. Das is true, you half zee markers, but zear is a protein (or something I can't remember exactly what) dat also should be present in your blood. It however is missing. Zo, Vée will order all new blood vork, and a cat scan, vith contrast, plus your urologist will need to do a biopsy. Sometink is goink on, and Vée will find it." So in two weeks I get to back to see what they found.

I know the irony as many of you will see it, because so many of you only heard half of my offer. The half that pertained to you receiving cancer. When in reality I said that we all must be willing to pray whatever it takes, and what good would it be for me to tell you all to pray this and for me not to pray this for myself.. So I'd did. Now who says God does not answer prayer.Wink
God is good, amen!

Back to the reason it posted this. Trials. Yes trials can be devastating hardship. But, a trial like this one can also take us much closer to God IF we let it. I debated on whether or not to share this here with you all, but even in light of all the negative that could be directed towards me or God here, I think this trial may even benfit one or two of you as well as point me further in the right direction. If that is the case then whatever I am asked to endure it will be worth it.

Right now I am in very good spirits, as this is not the first time I had to look down the barrel of death, I am not frantic over the declining news. However I am not impervious to emotion or pain. While I have made the commitment to keep this particular thread upto date, as things may hit the fan I might become less active in other threads or parts of the website. If for whatever reason I can't post my wife has said she may keep you all updated to one degree or another although I doubt she will get into anything other than my status.

In the back of my mind I was told 'a candle that burns twice as bright only gets to burn half as long.' Given the context in which I was told that this may be the beginning of the end, or this maybe like the false positive I got on my Aids test.. Who knows, because the Lord gives and the Lord takes away, either way blessed be the name of God.

here is a protip doctors can save your life stop praying for a minute they will do all they can in their power to help you. you should value your life more than wanting to move onto heaven.
think about it your hurting people leaving early when you can have the rest of your life. fight it out don't go out like this... see a doctor.
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#58
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Well my wife just reminded me that this comming week is the week of many test.

I have more blood work Tuesday (get to hear/the same more vampire jokes from the lab techs again)
Wednesday I go in for my cat scan, and bi-opsy

Thursday I follow up with the hemotologist, he should tell me what is up with 'zee cancer markers vith out zee proper protein.' Uont zee results of zee cat scan vith contrast.

Friday I pay a guy to ruffie me and shove a camera up my urethra.. (And who knows what else) Worst... Halloween... ever! But, by then I should have some solid news.
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#59
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I don't envy you, man.
Best of luck and always ask for an anesthetic.
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#60
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(October 20, 2014 at 1:08 am)Drich Wrote: I know the irony as many of you will see it, because so many of you only heard half of my offer. The half that pertained to you receiving cancer. When in reality I said that we all must be willing to pray whatever it takes, and what good would it be for me to tell you all to pray this and for me not to pray this for myself.. So I'd did. Now who says God does not answer prayer.Wink
God is good, amen!

Well, good luck with that Undecided

Quote:Back to the reason it posted this. Trials. Yes trials can be devastating hardship. But, a trial like this one can also take us much closer to God IF we let it. I debated on whether or not to share this here with you all, but even in light of all the negative that could be directed towards me or God here, I think this trial may even benfit one or two of you as well as point me further in the right direction. If that is the case then whatever I am asked to endure it will be worth it.

It can also catalyst a departure of faith, which is a shame in one's last short while to live... that kind of uncertainty can affect mentality, and cause a depression that ultimately leaves one worse off.

Above all else, keeping up your spirit is necessary for both potential survival, and for a less pointlessly painful demise.

I 'recently' had a friend survive a 110 MpH car crash where he had a less than 10% chance of making it through the brain surgery alive. The Dreamer sometimes gives us small favors in his games, and sometimes shuts people down for the hell of it...

For your sake, I hope that you interest the Dreamer enough to reap the benefits of his sight.

Quote:Right now I am in very good spirits, as this is not the first time I had to look down the barrel of death, I am not frantic over the declining news. However I am not impervious to emotion or pain. While I have made the commitment to keep this particular thread upto date, as things may hit the fan I might become less active in other threads or parts of the website. If for whatever reason I can't post my wife has said she may keep you all updated to one degree or another although I doubt she will get into anything other than my status.

Thank your wife for me, it would be a shame to lose you without knowing. Not knowing the fate of friends and community is... nagging, and worrying.

Quote:In the back of my mind I was told 'a candle that burns twice as bright only gets to burn half as long.' Given the context in which I was told that this may be the beginning of the end, or this maybe like the false positive I got on my Aids test.. Who knows, because the Lord gives and the Lord takes away, either way blessed be the name of God.

And the candle wick can be doused by a hand no matter how brightly it burns... it would be a shame for that to happen to you. I wish you the best of this dream's favor Smile Keep up that spirit... and hold that faith dear to your heart.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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