2 timothy 3:16

[abaris]

For those of us in the atheist orbit, we KNOW all the bible is horseshit, and in all it's forms like the catholic version, and the KJV, and the NIV, etc.

So now it's the poor horse's fault?

No, no, it's human excrement at it's foulest.

[ThomM]

couple what the proff said with verse 10 to 16 and you will have your answer:


10 But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, 11 persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

New King James Version (NKJV)
The Holy Bible, New King James Version Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


The "Holy Scriptures"/The OT, and what was learned under the direction of Paul is what is being refered to here.

However - what YOU point out is that the people who the christ would have been speaking to - would have ONLY known the Old Testament as scripture from their Childhood - and would have never even seen the New Testament.

And since those passages essentially say that the Old Testament is still in force - Explain how it could possible be alright to have IN SCRIPTURE - Directions on how to PROPERLY sell your daughter into slavery??

I guess your god would not want you to do it improperly!!!!

[JeffofGallifrey]

Blind post:

2 timothy 3:16
All scripture is god breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking and training in righteousness.


You see Christians throw this one out a lot and I can't help but wonder, what scripture was the anonymous author referring to? The bible or scripture as we know it didn't exist until at least 200 years after the epistle was written, and there was and a lot of different gospels and Christian sects around at the time that are now heretical.

I have not studied this text in huge detail but I consider Timothy to be referring to the Old Testament books... the Jewish "scripture." He may have been adding the gospels into that, but... I'm pretty sure this refers to the Jewish canon of scripture.

It could be that "all scripture" was Timothy's way of including books that were disputed at the time - the books we refer to as the deuterocanon, which are included in Catholic but not Protestant Bibles.

[Drich]

couple what the proff said with verse 10 to 16 and you will have your answer:


10 But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, 11 persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

New King James Version (NKJV)
The Holy Bible, New King James Version Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


The "Holy Scriptures"/The OT, and what was learned under the direction of Paul is what is being refered to here.

However - what YOU point out is that the people who the christ would have been speaking to - would have ONLY known the Old Testament as scripture from their Childhood - and would have never even seen the New Testament.

And since those passages essentially say that the Old Testament is still in force - Explain how it could possible be alright to have IN SCRIPTURE - Directions on how to PROPERLY sell your daughter into slavery??

I guess your god would not want you to do it improperly!!!!

Indeed... What's your point?

[Drich]

Blind post:

2 timothy 3:16
All scripture is god breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking and training in righteousness.


You see Christians throw this one out a lot and I can't help but wonder, what scripture was the anonymous author referring to? The bible or scripture as we know it didn't exist until at least 200 years after the epistle was written, and there was and a lot of different gospels and Christian sects around at the time that are now heretical.

I have not studied this text in huge detail but I consider Timothy to be referring to the Old Testament books... the Jewish "scripture." He may have been adding the gospels into that, but... I'm pretty sure this refers to the Jewish canon of scripture.

It could be that "all scripture" was Timothy's way of including books that were disputed at the time - the books we refer to as the deuterocanon, which are included in Catholic but not Protestant Bibles.

Read Tim 3 ( the whole chapter) Paul tells us what he is talking about specifically.

[Minimalist]

Read Tim 3 ( the whole chapter) Paul where some unknown scribe tells us what he is talking about specifically.

Fixed that for you drippy. You need all the help you can get.