a hypothetical question

[Alex K]

you are given a gun and sent back in time before jesus is
going to get crucified would you or would you not save him?

For all we know that is exactly what happened, or didn't. The stories you know have little to do with what any one particulat person actually did in the year 30 or so.

[dyresand]

you are given a gun and sent back in time before jesus is
going to get crucified would you or would you not save him?

For all we know that is exactly what happened, or didn't. The stories you know have little to do with what any one particulat person actually did in the year 30 or so.

its a hypothetical for a reason its not to be taken as if it was real.
you could have said yes with a reason or no with a reason.

[Clueless Morgan]

Personally I think a more interesting question would be whether you would stop someone like hitler from being tortured to death because even if you assume that there was a historical Jesus that, through his death, would serve as the martyr upon which a religion would grow, there are still a ton of assumptions that have to be made about what he actually said and how he actually went about gaining followers and without more conclusive information in this regard I think it's almost a no brainier that you should stop his torturing and death.

At the time Jesus would have been killed he hadn't been responsible for the blatant and unjust victimization of hundreds of thousands of people, at most you might be able to lay a few hundred on him if he did actually express some of the more controversial ideas of the NT. He probably would have been a small timer even by today's standards if he lived in the 20th/21st century.

Way more interesting of a hypothetical would be whether you would save the life of a person you find absolutely morally reprehensible. Maybe you do think Jesus would have been just as morally reprehensible as hitler though, I don't know.

[dyresand]

Personally I think a more interesting question would be whether you would stop someone like hitler from being tortured to death because even if you assume that there was a historical Jesus that, through his death, would serve as the martyr upon which a religion would grow, there are still a ton of assumptions that have to be made about what he actually said and how he actually went about gaining followers and without more conclusive information in this regard I think it's almost a no brainier that you should stop his torturing and death.

At the time Jesus would have been killed he hadn't been responsible for the blatant and unjust victimization of hundreds of thousands of people, at most you might be able to lay a few hundred on him if he did actually express some of the more controversial ideas of the NT. He probably would have been a small timer even by today's standards if he lived in the 20th/21st century.

Way more interesting of a hypothetical would be whether you would save the life of a person you find absolutely morally reprehensible. Maybe you do think Jesus would have been just as morally reprehensible as hitler though, I don't know.

jesus is god > ergo saving god and make him learn a hard lesson of living a whole life like us humans and he would see how hard it is and he will see how he makes our lives harder than it needs to be.

[Clueless Morgan]

jesus is god > ergo saving god and make him learn a hard lesson of living a whole life like us humans and he would see how hard it is and he will see how he makes our lives harder than it needs to be.

The hypothetical doesn't assume that Jesus=God, it says to assume that Jesus existed. Assuming Jesus is also God is one of those additional assumptions you'd have to have clarified which makes this a far less interesting question than whether to save Hitler or not.

As for saving Jesus/God so he can experience a human life and gain compassion for our suffering, isn't an additional assumption about this God (in addition to Jesus=God) that he is omniscient? Thus he would know the human experience regardless of whether he actually lived it and saving Jesus in order to save god and impart human experience on him is pointless. He already knows everything. He's already experienced everything.

[dyresand]

jesus is god > ergo saving god and make him learn a hard lesson of living a whole life like us humans and he would see how hard it is and he will see how he makes our lives harder than it needs to be.

The hypothetical doesn't assume that Jesus=God, it says to assume that Jesus existed. Assuming Jesus is also God is one of those additional assumptions you'd have to have clarified which makes this a far less interesting question than whether to save Hitler or not.

As for saving Jesus/God so he can experience a human life and gain compassion for our suffering, isn't an additional assumption about this God (in addition to Jesus=God) that he is omniscient? Thus he would know the human experience regardless of whether he actually lived it and saving Jesus in order to save god and impart human experience on him is pointless. He already knows everything. He's already experienced everything.

if you saved hitler more than likely on his second attempt to take over the world he would win. if we didn't save him we would be in the same predicament now.