Killing of homosexuals/apostates/adulterous in Quran/Bible

[Brian37]

One of the things Muslims believe is that Quran came to correct the Bible were it was wrong. In the Bible it was taught that God once commanded to kill for

1) Adultery (stoning)
2) Apostasy
3) Men having sex with each other

Now the Quran states Bani-Israel were in fact only allowed to kill for two reasons:


مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَنْ قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِنْهُمْ بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ {32}
[Shakir 5:32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

1) would be for murder (the person killed another person)
2) the other would be causing mischief in land like war

Now

Adultery would be neither of these
Homosexuals having sex would be neither of these
And an apostate leaving his religion would neither of these

Yet Muslims believe these were laws of Musa that were also laws of Mohammad.

No and sorry, same mistake Christians and Jews make.

You re interpret the words to paint the book in a good light.

If you reject harm to fellow humans, it is not the book doing it, it is your own evolutionary empathy that has you interpret that book. The book itself has no magic powers.

Now again, if any holy book were so fantastic as to get humans to be civil and non violent, why all the different interpretations? It would seem hardly efficient for an all powerful god to leave humans to a book that they fight over. 

The logic does not work. The reason you look in that book to justify one thing is the same reason other Muslims read the same book and come to different conclusions. Because nobody wants to consider that the book isn't dictating anyone's behavior, humans simply want to use it to dictate the behaviors of others.

[Red_Wind]

One of the things Muslims believe is that Quran came to correct the Bible were it was wrong. In the Bible it was taught that God once commanded to kill for

1) Adultery (stoning)
2) Apostasy
3) Men having sex with each other

Now the Quran states Bani-Israel were in fact only allowed to kill for two reasons:


مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَنْ قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِنْهُمْ بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ {32}
[Shakir 5:32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

1) would be for murder (the person killed another person)
2) the other would be causing mischief in land like war

Now

Adultery would be neither of these
Homosexuals having sex would be neither of these
And an apostate leaving his religion would neither of these

Yet Muslims believe these were laws of Musa that were also laws of Mohammad.

No and sorry, same mistake Christians and Jews make.

You re interpret the words to paint the book in a good light.

If you reject harm to fellow humans, it is not the book doing it, it is your own evolutionary empathy that has you interpret that book. The book itself has no magic powers.

Now again, if any holy book were so fantastic as to get humans to be civil and non violent, why all the different interpretations? It would seem hardly efficient for an all powerful god to leave humans to a book that they fight over. 

The logic does not work. The reason you look in that book to justify one thing is the same reason other Muslims read the same book and come to different conclusions. Because nobody wants to consider that the book isn't dictating anyone's behavior, humans simply want to use it to dictate the behaviors of others.

Check the date

Wonder how many others will fall for the necro thread.

[Losty]

You have to understand the Islamic laws only apply to Muslims and not non believers. 

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

Wasn't this thread a necro?

Now it's double necrod

[Losty]

@red wind. I don't understand how it counts as falling for something. Just because it's a necro doesn't mean we can't discuss it

[Red_Wind]

@red wind. I don't understand how it counts as falling for something. Just because it's a necro doesn't mean we can't discuss it

I know but i doubt the person he is asking is still interested in the topic.

[Losty]

You mean MK? Why not?

[Brian37]

Crap. Sorry.

[Dasboot]

Wasn't this thread a necro?

Now it's double necrod

Zombie, it came back from the dead.

[Losty]

I love necromancy