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Systematically Dismantling Atheism
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Systematically Dismantling Atheism
Let me first define true atheism

Atheism is a complete and total rejection of all theistic claims. If theists assert God (creator of the universe and all life in it) does exist, atheists must assert the contrary , i.e. God does not exist. The only middle ground in this true dichotomy is agnosticism (undecided), which is not true atheism.

The Incremental Intelligence Theorem

A.We have observable empirical evidence of a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes, existing here on earth

B.Therefore a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes existing elsewhere in the universe, including other possible dimensions, is a logical possibility and can not be ruled out

Therefore If A is true then B is logically possible and can not be rejected

Atheists will easily accept the existence of a sentient life form (lets call it life form 1.1) that is 1% superior in intelligence to humans, and they will accept this possibility by blind faith using nothing more than logical inferences. So then we must assume life form 1.1 could exist, therefore can not be ruled out of existence. And life form 1.1 would also logically assume the possible existence of life form 1.2., and life form 1.2 would also logically assume the possible existence of life form 1.3 etc. etc.

And at every step along the way an intelligent life form that is 1% superior in intelligence/attributes can logically & rationally exist from the perspective of the life form that is 1% inferior, and at no point along the way does this chain of slightly superior life forms become an irrational concept (i.e flying spaghetti monsters) from the perspective of the preceding slightly less intelligent life form. Therefore in this chain of logically possible life forms, the existence of life form 100000^100000 (i.e creator of the universe, thus God) becomes as logical a concept as life form 1.1 is.

The concept of a God-like intelligence is only rejected by narrow minded subjective atheists that are incapable of mentally grasping the existence of BIG LIFE, when in fact there is no rational, logical or mathematical basis to reject a God-like intelligence from existing. Just as single celled organisms and trillion celled organisms have the same mathematical chances of existing , humans and a God-like sentience also have the same mathematical chances of existing

Understand, the "SIZE OF INTELLIGENCE" has absolutely no relevance what so ever to the potential existence of a sentient life form. Therefore unimaginably small life has the exact same chances of existing as unimaginably big life does as far as logic is concerned, and the IIT proves it at every incremental step.

Once the atheist opens the door of possibility to the existence of life form 1.1, he then must produce a reason to stop this incremental intelligence from reaching Godhood in a stepwise fashion. And the atheist can never produce a valid reason to stop the progression of this incremental intelligence other than he can't mentally comprehend a God-like intelligence existing. Therefore the atheist is forced to compare the concept of God to absurd concepts like flying spaghetti monsters to justify his reasoning in what should be a perfectly logical concept.

Atheists illogically and irrationally put a cap on the intelligence/attribute levels of all life that can possibly exist, and do so without ever giving an explanation why a God-like intelligence can not exist or is highly unlikely to exist. In fact the only logical reason someone has to put a cap on the intelligence levels in the universe, is if a life form knows all that can be possibly be known, thus is all knowing and can't know any more

Therefore true atheism (not agnosticism) is an illogical concept
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#2
RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
It's always gratifying when someone comes along and tells us what we believe. We'd never have known if you hadn't been here for us. How can we ever repay you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#3
RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
Note he mentioned "other possible dimensions" !!!


So, how about:

The 7.3 Dimension

The Bleen Dimension

The -3.141592654 Dimension

The Infinity Dimension

The 17/23 Dimension
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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
I know what you believe because I know what you don't believe. Either God exists or he does not exist. Therefore If you claim you don't believe your team will lose, I understand you must believe your team will win because no third option exists.
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#5
RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
Quote:Let me first define true atheism


Go fuck yourself.

And your fucking god.
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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
Believing god doesn't exist isn't the same as knowing conclusive evidence for a specific God's existence has not been presented.
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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
(October 31, 2014 at 9:54 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Note he mentioned "other possible dimensions" !!!

According to the math you use in string theory, they all can exist

(October 31, 2014 at 9:58 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Believing god doesn't exist isn't the same as knowing conclusive evidence for a specific God's existence has not been presented.

I understand that, we are not talking about what you know, but what you believe. Theists don't know, they believe , just as atheists do
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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
WTF ??
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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
(October 31, 2014 at 9:56 pm)IDScience Wrote: I know what you believe because I know what you don't believe. Either God exists or he does not exist. Therefore If you claim you don't believe your team will lose, I understand you must believe your team will win because no third option exists.

I don't believe in any theistic claims until compelling evidence can be shown and evaluated. I don't care about winning or losing, my only concern (such as it is) would be can you support what you claim?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Systematically Dismantling Atheism
(October 31, 2014 at 9:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Let me first define true atheism


Go fuck yourself.

And your fucking god.

That statement did not refute my argument, but only prove your emotional attachment to your position of atheism
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