Atheism is unreasonable

[The Valkyrie]

HM, you can't claim to be anything like scientific or logical if you have absolutely no standard for classifying things scientifically beyond "I think this thing looks like this other thing".

Let's face it, their argument basically comes down to:

[dyresand]

That's exactly the position of evolutionary biology. No animal will ever produce offspring of a different species, with the possible exception of certain hybrids. However, the descendants of an isolated population of dogs would be a different dog-like species after 10,000 generations, and after 10,000 more their descendants would be less dog-like and surely no longer capable of interbreeding with main population of dogs this population split off from. However at no point did any animal give birth to offspring that weren't the same species as the parent. If the generation length doesn't change (remains about 2 years), this would take about 10,000 years. Dogs are an interesting case, because although they're all over the world, they've never been completely reproductively isolated (despite the best efforts of breeders), so although artificial selection has produced varieties as distinct as toy poodles and Irish Wolfhounds, they can all still interbreed, with the exception of breeds that are too anatomically different to be able to mate. They remain dogs, due to a combination of continued interbreeding and the fact that artificial selection works much faster than natural selection, so that the morphological changes far outpace the genetic drift that eventually results in genomes being too incompatible for interbreeding to be successful. In our hypothetical isolated dog population, after roughly 60 million years, it would have, on average, as much in common genetically with the original dog population as current dogs have with cats.

Cut the bio-babble and tell me when has the reptile-bird change ever been observed? I mean, it isn't as if there is a thousand differences between the two. Please tell me how that could have ever occured, sir.

pretty much that.. that is evidence enough from a change of reptile from to birds is those scales.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yep, it's been observed. If you wanted to, you could make the observation yourself. Might take a few years and many many dollars, but the opportunity is there for you. For reference, has the creation of a kind ever been observed?

[Cyberman]

It is simple, chickens may have had teeth in the past, but for whatever reason, they don't anymore. I am not going to jump the gun like most of you people with the non-sequitur mindframe of "chickens don't have teeth now, but they did in the past, therefore, chickens evolved from X,Y, and Z". 

Yet you've done exactly that by postulating that toothless chickens evolved from toothed ones. Best climb off that branch before you finish sawing it.

It just doesn't follow, and such speculation is completely unwarranted, unless you have an agenda you want to push.

Whoa, careful with that well poison, bud!

Besides, I'm not guilty of the charge you ascribe to me.

[abaris]

Cut the bio-babble and tell me when has the reptile-bird change ever been observed? I mean, it isn't as if there is a thousand differences between the two. Please tell me how that could have ever occured, sir.

Maybe, just maybe, you could do some reading. Maybe something from the university of Berkley.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html

[FatAndFaithless]

It sounds like HM hasn't even taken ten minutes to google this stuff and actually read the peer-reviewed scientific articles on it. Regurgitating Hovind's favorite canards a good discussion does not make.

[His_Majesty]

Ah, so then there was a time when your god didn't exist?

Straw man.

Perhaps start examining the contradictions between an omnimax god and claimed biblical qualities and behaviors.

Then have at it...and since you are my "friend"..I will be there ever step of the way to put you right back on track when you start making illogical assertions....you know, logical fallacies....stuff like that. I will be right there to say "Parkers, that is absurd, because...."

Heyy, don't thank me...that's what friends are for

[The Valkyrie]

Cut the bio-babble and tell me when has the reptile-bird change ever been observed? I mean, it isn't as if there is a thousand differences between the two. Please tell me how that could have ever occured, sir.

Maybe, just maybe, you could do some reading. Maybe something from the university of Berkley.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html

"Cut the bio-babble"

Indicating that not only does HM not understand basic biology, but doesn't want to know anything the contradicts his incorrect claims.

[dyresand]

what velociraptors really looked like


Jurassic park had it wrong they did have feathers this is more than enough proof.
so this could easily enough turned into a chicken.

[His_Majesty]

And that's it? Nothing else?

So a lion and cheetah don't look alike?? They aren't the same kind of animal?...and organisms don't tend to look like the same organism that begat them?